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| jaygti Member Since: 04 Nov 2012 Location: essex Posts: 378   
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If the play is in the u/j it needs replacing.
Either do it yourself ( messy and fiddly the 1st time, but easy from then on), get a garage to do it, or replace the whole prop as they are quite cheap. If the u/j let’s go it can cause a lot of damage. You may notice some vibration as well when you drive it. 2002 td5 90 county hardtop |
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10th Sep 2021 4:29pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17414 
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Do you mean torsional play (normal) or radial play (bad news), or do you means play in the UJ (also bad news but not generally as bad).
I'm also not entirely sure what you means by this:
... and I haven't been able to figure out what sensible word would be auto-corrected to "blinking"! Can you explain what you mean? |
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10th Sep 2021 5:06pm |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3414  
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I believe a small amount of radial play on the transfer case front output flange is normal as the shaft is on a simple ball bearing. I would not worry if it is a small amount, there is no sign of leaking and no noises.
Blinking - maybe 'grinding'. If it is grinding gears during gear exchange, some say 'normal' for the Getrag MT82. But maybe at 70k the clutch is due. Worth dropping the oil and replace with 2.2 liters of high quality synthetic 75W80 oil GL4 oil. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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10th Sep 2021 5:21pm |
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| scotty38 Member Since: 21 May 2011 Location: Lincolnshire Posts: 571  
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Clunking, clanking maybe
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10th Sep 2021 7:04pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20412
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It’s likely the UJ’s that need replacing, but really you need to remove the prop to check properly.
Even one bearing cup and roller bearings gone is enough to cause those symptoms and beyond that if removed you can check the flange is secure and bolt too. I had this and it was just one bearing cup right at the back on the rear, I couldn’t detect it was gone in situ and passed MOT checks in situ. It wasn’t until removed could I find the actual culprit. By which time it had caused the rear diff nose pinion oil seal to leak at additional cost. My guess is it caused lateral vibration and movement, worse at slower speeds. If you take them off mark each end with tipped or similar on each mating surface and that way you know exactly how it came off it can go back on. Either replace UJ’s or replace prop.  $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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10th Sep 2021 7:17pm |
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| Ijk10 Member Since: 01 Apr 2021 Location: Newport Posts: 37  
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Clunking on gear change sorry....predictive text... |
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10th Sep 2021 7:49pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17414
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The clunk on gearchange may be an entirely different problem (there are many threads on Puma driveline clunks, in fact few Pumas don't have clunks), or it may, as C90Steve says, be that the UJs are failing.
If the shaft of the propshaft can move up and down, side to side, or rotationally without the transfer box flange moving, you have a UJ problem. If the transfer box flange moves up and down or side to side you have a failed (or failing) output shaft bearing in the transfer box (which is fairly bad news). It is always possible to remove the front propshaft and go for a drive with the centre diff locked to see if the clunk is still present. |
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10th Sep 2021 11:09pm |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3414
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Check the drive members on the rear axle, or better solution replace to one piece half shafts. Britpart one piece are actually good, and cheap. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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11th Sep 2021 5:33am |
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| Ijk10 Member Since: 01 Apr 2021 Location: Newport Posts: 37
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It's had new lof one piece drive shafts on the rear. New lof clutch and output shaft.....
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11th Sep 2021 8:52am |
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| Ijk10 Member Since: 01 Apr 2021 Location: Newport Posts: 37
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Hi Blackwoof Why is the latter description bad? |
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11th Sep 2021 8:54am |
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