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v8bobber



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Java Black
Plastic front wing
Hi,

I have been looking at replacement outer wings for the 110 and have seen plastic / ABS ones at a reasonable price.

I would have rather have aluminium ones as per original but would not be adverse to the plastic ones if they are good. Has anyone tried them? Can you get a decent paint finish on them?

Cheers,

Dave
Post #347645 25th Jul 2014 11:29pm
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LR90XS2011



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United Kingdom 2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green
one of the landy mags did a review and they looked good, think Ian from IRB may have been involved DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

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Post #347646 26th Jul 2014 5:50am
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grumpy old git



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From another post on here:

Porny wrote:
Have a look here (article I did for LRM a while ago)...

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B9_FK20Nr...sp=sharing

Covers the outer wing only, but some of it still relevant. I'm sure there is a whole wing change as well, but can't find it at the moment.

Ian
Post #347656 26th Jul 2014 6:33am
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jimbob7



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As with aluminium,it's a slightly different painting process,probably not as diy friendly as alloy even, it needs a plasticiser before applying paint,which allows the paint to flex with the considerably more flexible panel.Few car manufacturers use plastic panels Citroen and Landrover (Freelander front wings, I believe) are the only ones I know of.But a "normal" finish can be achieved, again it will depend on the skill of the painter/finisher. Pov.spec,ftw. 2006, 110,TD5.
Post #347692 26th Jul 2014 12:47pm
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mk1collector



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What about bumpers Whistle
Post #347727 26th Jul 2014 5:18pm
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GUM97



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I've got an O/S front wing made of plastic.... Fits absolutely fine, and thanks to a skilled painter you would never tell the difference. An engine to TDi for!
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Post #347831 27th Jul 2014 10:55am
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Eppilihp



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jimbob7 wrote:
As with aluminium,it's a slightly different painting process,probably not as diy friendly as alloy even, it needs a plasticiser before applying paint,which allows the paint to flex with the considerably more flexible panel.Few car manufacturers use plastic panels Citroen and Landrover (Freelander front wings, I believe) are the only ones I know of.But a "normal" finish can be achieved, again it will depend on the skill of the painter/finisher.


Old thread but I am facing the same question, so here we go:

What's the general consensus on outer wings (for a 30+ years old One Ten), aluminium panel or ABS plastic skin? Plastic has come a long way and is at least tempting... are they a straight fit? I was once told that I may need to elongate some of the mounting holes where it bolts to the rest of the wing. Is there any real world experience?

Also, would it be easier to spray an ABS plastic wing using something like Raptor U-Pol for example?

Thanks
Philippe
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Dinnu



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Malta 2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 CSW Santorini Black
In my opinion, the wings give some rigidity / support to the bulkhead. I cannot see the bulkhead to be rigid enough with just the bolts to the outrigger, and the plates bolted to the footwell. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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Bluest



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Can’t be much added support Dinnu. I had mine off not long ago and they are a wobbly flimsy affair only held with small bolts and screws. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Dinnu



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Recently I removed the wings off a Td5, and the bulkhead tilted back quite considerably, at least enough to make the door not shut nicely any more. And the roof was still on!! Hence my thinking.
I know on the newer models, JLR changed to little screws. My old 90 have proper M8 nuts and bolts. The fold next to the bulkhead is also doubled for strength. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black
Post #907813 14th Jun 2021 6:31pm
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Eppilihp



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Good point, do you think the ABS plastic outer wings provide much less stability for the bulkhead than the aluminium panels? The rest will be aluminium anyway.

Did anyone actually try them? Personally, I never saw one out there in the wild ...
Post #907913 15th Jun 2021 10:01am
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rustandoil



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I have a plastic front wing hanging on my wall Very Happy

Ive no intention of using it, but I have to say the quality doesn't seem too bad Thumbs Up
Post #908084 16th Jun 2021 8:00am
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Rednaxela



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Sorry, this is sacrilege. If I unknowingly bought a defender with a plastic outer panel I'd be pretty upset to say the least.

It's bad enough with some land rovers having reproduction alu panels missing their spot welds!
Post #908841 21st Jun 2021 7:59pm
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AMBxx



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Slightly different question:
Are the corner cappings available anywhere in plastic? Mine were resprayed once under warranty but will need doing again in the next year or so. They don't appear to have any structural function so would be ideal in plastic.
Probably small enough to do in a 3D printer.
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blackwolf



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What do you mean by "corner cappings"?
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