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| slon4eto Member Since: 30 Aug 2020 Location: Moscow Posts: 7  
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Hello, I want to change my clutch kit.
My truck is a Land Rover Defender 110 HARD TOP 300TDI. It was produced on 1997. The engine is 300tdi. The gearbox is R 380 . Please answer the following questions: A) Which clutch is preferable / you would use /, for what reasons : 1) Land Rover Performance Clutch Kit - OE STC8358 manufactured by the company SACHS : https://www.sachsperformance.com/en/clutch...00950701-s OR 2) POWERspec TDI 200/300tdi manufactured by the company LOF clutches : https://lofclutches.com/shop/clutches/clut...ty-clutch/ OR 3) KLR24006-1A Xtreme Outback Clutch Kit-100 Series manifactured by the company Xtreme Outback Clutch : https://www.xtremeoutback.com.au/en/catalogue - №KLR24006-1A B) For LOF clutches: 1) What is the % higher transmitted torque of the POWERspec TDI 200/300 tdi kit compared to OEM? https://lofclutches.com/shop/clutches/clut...ty-clutch/ 2) What is the torque capacity of the POWERspec TDI 200/300 tdi kit in Nm ? https://lofclutches.com/shop/clutches/clut...ty-clutch/ 3) What is the clamping force /eject fors/ of the POWERspec TDI 200/300 tdi kit in N or kg ? https://lofclutches.com/shop/clutches/clut...ty-clutch/ 4) What will be the weight of the pedal if I install /put/ a 2.8 TGV HS International POWERspec kit - (Also fits TDI) and a DEFENDER POWER MASTER BUNDLE Spring and Master Cylinder on my truck? https://lofclutches.com/shop/clutches/clut...rspec-kit/ https://lofclutches.com/shop/clutches/peda...-cylinder/ 5) The weight of the pedal from point 4) is equal to or less or greater than if I mount /put/ on my truck POWERspec TDI 200/300 tdi kit and Defender POWER MASTER BUNDLE Spring and Master Cylinder? https://lofclutches.com/shop/clutches/clut...ty-clutch/ https://lofclutches.com/shop/clutches/peda...-cylinder/ Thank you in advance. I do not speak English! I use google translator. Last edited by slon4eto on 30th May 2021 9:31am. Edited 4 times in total |
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26th May 2021 6:21am |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1845 
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Hi,
I'm afraid I can only answer number 4. "4) What will be the weight of the pedal if I install /put/ a 2.8 TGV HS International POWERspec kit - (Also fits TDI) and a DEFENDER POWER MASTER BUNDLE Spring and Master Cylinder on my truck?" I have a 300Tdi, with some engine upgrades, so I changed to the kit above while all the work was being done. The weight of the clutch pedal is 'easy' - not quite 'car like' but very easy to use. I had been wondering about a Redbooster (my wife drives the Defender too sometimes*) but having fitted the LOF spring and power master, there's just no need. * - apologies if anyone thinks this is unduly sexist. I know there are lots of strong girls out there....  Donald
1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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26th May 2021 1:52pm |
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| I Like Old Skool Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 814  
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I will try to write this very simply so it is not confusing when translated.
I have a 1994 300tdi 110 defender and it is very similar to your Defender. I replaced the clutch a few years ago after the friction plate springs failed and dropped out. I fitted an OEM equivalent from Paddocks Landrover spares and it has been perfect. I do have a habit of racing away from the traffic lights and also drive off-road sometimes so the clutch works hard but never shows any signs of being weak. All the people that drive my 110 say they are surprised by how light the clutch pedal feels compared to their Landrovers and after driving their vehicles I agree. As far as I know, my vehicle is completely standard. This is the clutch kit I fitted - https://www.paddockspares.com/stc8358bb-st...aring.html Clutch was fitted in November 2016 and has since done 15000 miles. |
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26th May 2021 10:39pm |
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| boxoftricks Member Since: 06 Feb 2019 Location: Home Counties Posts: 747 
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Contact Luke at Lof as I'm sure he will be only too happy to help. He's a top lad.
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27th May 2021 6:59am |
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| Linds Hanson Member Since: 16 Jan 2021 Location: Cornwall Posts: 486
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Just fit a LOF power spec or 2.8 if you have a modified engine job done
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27th May 2021 9:45am |
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| I Like Old Skool Member Since: 23 Feb 2015 Location: Manchester Posts: 814
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Just to add....
My previous clutch was also very light/easy before the failure and worked perfectly despite unknown mileage and a leaking main bearing oil seal which was covering the clutch housing in oil and detritus. I don't think there is any need for heavy duty clutches if you drive correctly and have a standard engine. As with all things mechanical there is a need for a little sympathy and an understanding of what the component has to do! |
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27th May 2021 10:23pm |
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| Dinnu Member Since: 24 Dec 2019 Location: Lija Posts: 3418  
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My 90 had Valeo installed at the factory when the 90 was built. It lasted 128k miles, and 30 years. But the springs were about to fall off. I could press the clutch pedal with 2 fingers (pedal box well lubricated). Old pressure plate is still in perfect condition.
I am replacing it with Valeo kit. It comes with an NSK thrust bearing. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing 2012 90 CSW, 2.2TDCI, Santorini Black |
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28th May 2021 4:34am |
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| PAT303 Member Since: 25 Feb 2013 Location: Australia Posts: 125  
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I'm about to replace my 300 Tdi's clutch the first time at 245,000km's and again now at 550,000km's, only used Valeo.
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1st Jun 2021 9:54am |
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| slon4eto Member Since: 30 Aug 2020 Location: Moscow Posts: 7
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Hello, Please answer me if your 2.8 TGV HS clutch engages (includes) smoothly, gradually? Or abruptly, with a tug? I ask because the springs are stronger, tighter. Did the noise from the gears of the gearbox with TGV clutch increase? Has the frequency of "gearbox rattling, chatter" increased? Sorry for the repetitions, the clarifications. I translate with Google translator. I don't know if he translates exactly. |
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2nd Jun 2021 7:03am |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1845
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No problem. Happy to help.
The clutch engages fine. It's smooth and progressive. Like I said, quite like car. I'm sure the pedal spring and master cylinder help with that. There is no 'tug' or snatching on taking up drive. Overall it does not feel like a strong or heavy clutch when driving. However - you are right to mention the gears chattering - it does chatter a lot more than it used to. This happens once the gearbox oil has warmed up and the engine is idling. It happens all the time in that situation. Also, this is not an old, worn box, it's a newly-reconditioned box from Ashcrofts. It's just the strength of the clutch making it chatter I think. Although I do believe some of the R380 boxes are worse for chatter than others. Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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2nd Jun 2021 12:17pm |
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| slon4eto Member Since: 30 Aug 2020 Location: Moscow Posts: 7
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Many thanks to everyone who took part!
Special thanks to you, Donald, because with the comprehensive answers you helped me a lot to decide to buy a kit the same as your clutch! |
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2nd Jul 2021 2:43pm |
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| slon4eto Member Since: 30 Aug 2020 Location: Moscow Posts: 7
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Hi Donald,
I forgot to ask you if you changed the parts at the same time (together) at once? These are the clutch kit, the master cylinder and the clutch pedal spring. |
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2nd Jul 2021 3:02pm |
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