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| vlad Member Since: 11 Oct 2020 Location: RO Posts: 67  
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https://www.euroncap.com/en/results/land-rover/defender/41395
MY2021 Defender 90 P400 SE |
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9th Dec 2020 9:02am |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2636  
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The head bouncing off the bonnet reminded me of that scene from the film Dog Soldiers.......so good to know all is well if you run into a pack of werewolves.......
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9th Dec 2020 11:30am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018  
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The reverse angle:
 Click image to enlarge It looks impressive but curious to see that "The Land Rover Defender received a maximum five-star Euro NCAP rating - but the Land Rover Defender and Isuzu D-Max lose points in ‘compatibility’ test....." Thatcham Research - new Euro NCAP test protocols identify vehicles that must offer improved protection for other vehicles http://www.abpclub.co.uk/bodyshop-news.php?id=156827 " new Land Rover Defender and Isuzu D-Max deemed too aggressive in the head-on collision test." "The latest Euro NCAP test results highlight the important challenge some manufacturers face when their vehicles are exposed to the most exacting protocols so far, with the new Land Rover Defender and Isuzu D-Max deemed too aggressive in the head-on collision test. Impact testing methods were overhauled for 2020, with the head-on collision now consisting of two moving elements: the test vehicle itself and a Mobile Progressive Deformable Barrier (MPDB). This test not only looks at intrusion on the test vehicle but also to the MPDB which represents the partner vehicle in a collision. To avoid being penalised within the latest test protocols, large vehicles must now offer more protection – and better compatibility – to smaller vehicles during a collision. Although they both achieved a maximum five-star Euro NCAP rating, the Defender and D-Max lost points for their performance during the MPDB test and the threat they pose to partner vehicles in a collision. The D-Max, which scored 11.2 out of 16 in the frontal impact test and 84% for overall adult occupant protection, caused some ‘localised areas of high deformation’ to the MPDB, while the Defender’s ‘high mass and front structure makes it an aggressive partner to a colliding vehicle’. It scored 11.7 out of 16 and 85% for adult occupant protection. “The new-for-2020 tests are really driving a requirement for increased performance and more aggressive cars like the Defender and D-Max are being identified and marked down as a result,” Matthew Avery, Thatcham Research’s Director of Research, explained. “The latest test results show some manufacturers are finding compatibility a challenge.” https://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/thatcham-res...es-3057496 Worth a full read: Click image to enlarge https://www.mynewsdesk.com/uk/thatcham-res...eet-101941 This came as a bit of a surprise: "Land Rover state that a child restraint should not be installed in the optional front row 'jump seat'." A bit of a catch 22 then, seat is only big enough for a child, but it's only suitable for an adult? |
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9th Dec 2020 1:22pm |
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| umbertob Member Since: 21 Jun 2020 Location: Altadena, CA Posts: 133 
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Not to sound selfish..., but I could give exactly two sh*ts about compatibility tests and what happens to other cars, as long as my Defender keeps me and my family safe in a major crash like those simulated ones. What can I say, other lesser manufacturers of crappy econoboxes and SUVs better step it up and keep up with Land Rover.
Regarding the front jumper seat, there are plenty of children aged somewhere between 10 and 15 that would fit just fine there, with no need for booster seats. Also, my wife.  2020 NAS Defender 110 HSE 5-seater / Silver / Khaki / Black Pack / Black Roof / Satin Film / Cold Pack / Off-Road Pack / Advanced OR Pack / Comfort + Convenience Pack / Sirius + HD radio / HUD / Meridian Surround |
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9th Dec 2020 3:57pm |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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Begs the question, are you brave enough to suggest Mrs umbertob sits there?
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9th Dec 2020 4:06pm |
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| Defendit.. Member Since: 09 Aug 2020 Location: 's-Hertogenbosch Posts: 422 
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Pretty impresive !, I'am gonna be safe in this car. Very rigid, no deformation of the cabin.
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9th Dec 2020 4:41pm |
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| Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510
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The anti-SUV agenda gains traction. Seems fashions might be changing anyway - apparently young Rolls Royce customers are shunning the Cullinan in favour of the Ghost because SUVs are cars for “their dad” (and not because it’s completely hideous).
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9th Dec 2020 4:57pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I think things are a little different on your side of the pond ~ isn't the Defender the minnow when it comes to full size 4x4s and pickups.
Quite but have you seen it mentioned in any of the marketing literature? |
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9th Dec 2020 5:19pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Quite. The language used makes it clear which way the wind is blowing at Euro NCAP. |
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9th Dec 2020 5:23pm |
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| Cheshire110 Member Since: 26 Jul 2013 Location: Cheshire/London Posts: 2755
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All very impressive!
Anyone who remembers 5th gear crashing the Discovery 1 will see how far cars have come in recent decades Cheers, David Land Rovers of all shapes S3 onwards… Daily is a 110 V8. |
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9th Dec 2020 5:29pm |
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| Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510
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Doesn’t have ISOFIX or i-Size fittings, but I wonder if it might be a dimensions thing (some cars’ centre rear seats aren’t listed as suitable either) - the seat and seatbelt obviously work to restrain the mass of an adult. |
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9th Dec 2020 5:41pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Click image to enlarge Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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9th Dec 2020 6:05pm |
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| Philip Member Since: 09 Mar 2018 Location: England Posts: 510
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Crash performance another reason why solid front axles are no longer used.
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9th Dec 2020 6:11pm |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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Re pic
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9th Dec 2020 6:11pm |
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