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AndrewS

Member Since: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Hereford
Posts: 3708

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red

Simon Audi wrote:
Thanks all

Car went into the dealer Wednesday for multiple things... 2 of which occurred on the drive to the dealer.

I asked him to look at the slight pulsing too

But he was doubtful they would find anything as they are not allowed to drive above the speed limit.

Hope to get it back tomorrow?

Issues

1. Front L&R wheel Arch extensions not bonded correctly - big gaps appear when warm (10mm gap for like 75mm of trim)
2. Rear Number Plate - delaminating - water inside
3. Diff Display Differences between Main and Dash - flashing lock / unlock
4. The centre reading of the three displays on the ECO check page - never changes from 1.0 - the others change depending how you drive
5. Had to charge battery 3 times since new (7 weeks)
6. Service Needed on App - not on Car - that fixed itself last week?
7. Slight Pulsating at speed

Then the 2 new ones

8. Emergency Braking and lane Assist not working
9. Car when stopped at traffic lights - switched itself to Park and would not pull away of come out of park when requested.. Had to turn off the car and lock / unlock and restart...

So how many do you think will be fixed and how many - we could not find anything?

I am estimating 2/9 fixed and 6/9 - we could not find anything - 1 / 9 we are waiting parts..

Interestingly - its parked with the bonnet and boot open for most of yesterday.... not sure why the boot would be open... or the bonnet...?

Maybe they are changing suspension airbags when its there too?

Thoughts?

Ive had your sympton number 9, turns out it was a loose conector in the left headlight connection plug. The gear select and headlights are on the same canbus thing.
No issues at high speed well into 3 figures in the X or 110 hard top when I drove on private land. 130's have feeling's as well you know

14th May 2021 11:04pm

Simon Audi

Member Since: 19 Nov 2020
Location: Newport
Posts: 544

Well its still at the dealers

To resolve I believe the Diff issue (very vague answers so far) they changed some sort of module - dsespitet me showing them the thread - Intelligent all wheel drive.

However the new module wont talk...

So they escalated to LR technical UK - not able to fix it

So now the escalated to LR Technical Global..

So its still sat there at the dealer.

They say all other issues have been fixed by software updates *except the wheel arch and number plate - which they changed and pulsing at speed.

But lets see when the car is ready for collection.

15th May 2021 4:22am

deaston

Member Since: 18 Dec 2020
Location: UK
Posts: 150

I don't know how I've managed it, but my Defender is absolutely problem-free (so far). I'm hyper-critical about rattles and squeeks, but not a thing.

I do have that 1.0 thing in the Eco screen, but I'll never look at that (if I cared about the environment I wouldn't be driving a Defender) so it's the only problem I can think the car has... and it's not a problem.

15th May 2021 7:54am

DSL

Member Since: 20 Aug 2007
Location: Wandering the wasteland.
Posts: 837

Now you’ve blown it!

15th May 2021 7:58am

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3404

Yup, I said that and a week later it was in the dealers

Though I actually fixed mine myself, the dealer done nothing to it other than check it over. 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue

15th May 2021 8:17am

abpod

Member Since: 08 Nov 2020
Location: Arizona
Posts: 71

I had a job as a tire tech in college - it could also be your tire tread. Tread can oddly give a floating or disconnect from the road sensation at certain speeds on certain road material. Had it actually happen to me well into my adult years when I had my first Range Rover - I put on new rubber that I never had before. Swapped them out for 4 new rubber from a different manufacturer and it was resolved. '21 L663 X-Dyn HSE P400 Carpathian
'13 L319
'03 L322

16th May 2021 5:27pm

Simon Audi

Member Since: 19 Nov 2020
Location: Newport
Posts: 544

It could be a bad tyre - but the tyres are the standard All Season Tyre they come with from the factory.

16th May 2021 7:31pm

DSL

Member Since: 20 Aug 2007
Location: Wandering the wasteland.
Posts: 837

Would be a bit of a task swapping the spare with each in turn then going for a blast.

16th May 2021 7:47pm

Simon Audi

Member Since: 19 Nov 2020
Location: Newport
Posts: 544

Especially when its still in the dealer

16th May 2021 7:56pm

DSL

Member Since: 20 Aug 2007
Location: Wandering the wasteland.
Posts: 837

True.

16th May 2021 8:40pm

725browning

Member Since: 06 Nov 2020
Location: Northampton
Posts: 60

My D240 HSE went back on a rejection for most of the problems posted here on this thread. At first I refused a new one and opted for a refund. I have no idea what made me change my mind and I still don’t know but the new one has arrived and it’s totally different. I had terrible problems with door rattles and at 70 plus the hi pitched buzz from the front screen area was unbelievable. Jlr had to replace it with the D250. I was happy with the 240 and found it very capable but I have to say the 250 is smoother. I’ve been on two long runs and I am pleased to say the wind noise, door rattles and other issues seem to be solved. I don’t know if I’m correct but it feels a different build quality. Some things have changed like power points and they have added more usb c type points. As I had chance to spec from new again I added the smoked wood trim. If anyone opts for the wood trim be mindful that the smoked is a lot darker than it seems on the configuration and it’s almost black in the flesh. I’ve definitely wasted my money on that. Apart from that I think the build quality is improving because it seems a different car and most certainly drives a lot smoother.

16th May 2021 8:43pm

Simon Audi

Member Since: 19 Nov 2020
Location: Newport
Posts: 544

Simon Audi wrote:
Thanks all

Car went into the dealer Wednesday for multiple things... 2 of which occurred on the drive to the dealer.

I asked him to look at the slight pulsing too

But he was doubtful they would find anything as they are not allowed to drive above the speed limit.

Hope to get it back tomorrow?

Issues

1. Front L&R wheel Arch extensions not bonded correctly - big gaps appear when warm (10mm gap for like 75mm of trim)
2. Rear Number Plate - delaminating - water inside
3. Diff Display Differences between Main and Dash - flashing lock / unlock
4. The centre reading of the three displays on the ECO check page - never changes from 1.0 - the others change depending how you drive
5. Had to charge battery 3 times since new (7 weeks)
6. Service Needed on App - not on Car - that fixed itself last week?
7. Slight Pulsating at speed

Then the 2 new ones

8. Emergency Braking and lane Assist not working
9. Car when stopped at traffic lights - switched itself to Park and would not pull away of come out of park when requested.. Had to turn off the car and lock / unlock and restart...

So how many do you think will be fixed and how many - we could not find anything?

I am estimating 2/9 fixed and 6/9 - we could not find anything - 1 / 9 we are waiting parts..

Interestingly - its parked with the bonnet and boot open for most of yesterday.... not sure why the boot would be open... or the bonnet...?

Maybe they are changing suspension airbags when its there too?

Thoughts?

OK - so an update - Car in dealer for 11 days - reported ALL issues resolved... Collected this morning

(From Carpark and reception as service closed)

1. Both Front Wheel Arches - Section - unstuck - RESOLVED

2. Rear Number Plate - Water Ingress - RESOLVED

3. Diff Display Showing differently between Main Display / Dash Display and Tile on the Dash - NOT RESOLVED

4. Economy Screen - middle reading when driving does not change from 1.0 - NOT RESOLVED

5. Battery Low Warning - had to recharge 3 times since receiving the car - NO REOCCURENCE OF ISSUE YET

6. Servicing App - Showing Car Needed Servicing - Resolved Itself before car came in for repair on 12th May

7. Pulsating / Vibration at speed (not investigated and i have not checked yet as the weather is too wet to try)

8. Emergency Braking and Lane Keep Assist - Not Working - NO REOCCURENCE OF ISSUE YET

9. Car put itself in Park and refused to come out of Park - had to turn car off - lock and unlock and restart - NO REOCCURENCE OF ISSUE YET

So Best Case 6 out of 9 fixed..... but 2 definately not... 2 Fixed - 4 No reoccurence yet - 1 not investigated / tested.

23rd May 2021 12:31pm

GreenMonster

Member Since: 30 Sep 2020
Location: Virginia
Posts: 77

To the OP’s original question, I drive pretty fast on occasion as well, and have been super impressed with the smooth road manners of this car. I have a P400 on the Adventure 20’s so I wasn’t actually expecting this, but mine is smooth as silk at the speeds you mentioned. I run at heavy load psi all the time except off road, and it’s remarkable that this behemoth actually drives better on road than my previous Volvo V90CC. I never expected that. Any shudder or vibration and I’d just go to a tire place and pay to have the wheels drive force, or whatever they call it now, balanced.

23rd May 2021 10:38pm

jmac

Member Since: 04 Feb 2021
Location: Scotland
Posts: 14

Re the vibration at speed.

Have you had any steering issues?

My D300 has been pulling to one side and it turns out it is a seized brake caliper. Sometimes I can get a slight vibration coming through the wheel. After a while cruising at speed the brake pad wears itself down to the point it’s barely noticeable. Another use of the brakes and the problem comes back.

I have also experienced a pulsating sensation under hard acceleration. My gut tells me it is the differential cutting power and could be related to the constant braking on one wheel.

As the D300 has larger brakes I’m wondering if there is a bigger issue with a batch of brakes (whichever component it may be!) and not just isolated to my vehicle. I’m amazed brake calipers seize after less than 2k miles

24th May 2021 1:10pm

Simon Audi

Member Since: 19 Nov 2020
Location: Newport
Posts: 544

No no issue with the brakes and the vibration is at speed - rather than acceleration (Sort of crusing not accelerating)

Also its felt on the car - not the steering wheel or brake pedal.

THANKS

24th May 2021 2:24pm

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