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| Smyles_ Member Since: 25 Aug 2018 Location: Copenhagen Posts: 517  
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I see no reason as to why this couldn't be done. I'm not familiar with the station wagon interior lamp setup myself, but I assume you want the light in the 3rd row of seats / the boot and for it illuminate when one of the four front doors open?
You would only need to run one wire from the connector which supplies the 2nd row lamp with voltage when a door is opened as the rear 3rd row lamp will already be grounded (I assume there is already a lamp back there? If not, you'll need two wires). You just need to make sure that you connect your new wire to the correct connector of the 3rd row lamp that powers the lamp on when a door is open. To save you from having to solder or splice the existing cables you can use double male/female spade connectors crimped on either end of your new wire. 
Hope that helps, and if I'm wrong I'm sure to be swiftly corrected by far more qualified members  Stuart
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9th Mar 2021 12:25am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 
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Yes, it's quite easy to tee in a third light for above the second row seats. The only slight snag is that the small three pin connector for the standard lamp isn't available separately. It can be lashed up with small spade connectors, which is what I currently have, or you can buy second hand roof looms and salvage the connector from that, which is what I have planned for next time I take the headlining down!
Anyway more details here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/post711664.html#711664 Click image to enlarge Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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9th Mar 2021 8:35am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17480 
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Assuming that the new light is to go over the second row, it is easy. I did exactly this with the Mud LED lights in my DC.
All I did was to run wires from the front light (by the interior rear-view mirror, or in my case where the mirror used to be because I don't have one) to the new light to parallel the two lights up. You will also find that there is enough back-clearance above the headliner to mean that the plinth in not needed and the installation looks neater without. Wiring the two in parallel means that the second row light works exactly as the front, so open a door and both will come on, and either can be turned on independently using the controls on the light. You can also do this without removing the headlining if you carefully remove the fir tree clips along the seam between the front and rear headlining panels and use a bendy thing to feed the wires over the headlining to (or I suppose from) the hole for the front light. The second-row light can be fixed to the headlining (rather than the roof) since it is not heavy. |
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9th Mar 2021 9:28am |
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| boxoftricks Member Since: 06 Feb 2019 Location: Home Counties Posts: 747 
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Really easy to do. The loom in mine that runs down the centre of the roof had enough slack in it to add the new light without cutting in new wires.
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9th Mar 2021 9:48am |
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| big110 Member Since: 02 Nov 2016 Location: Sweeden Posts: 342 
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Thank you all a ton. Any reason to not tap off the rear load space lamp ? The one in my boot? I swapped that to a mud led too
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15th Mar 2021 1:57am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17480
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^^ Sorry, I am not sure about that because I have a double cab. If the rear light works in the same way as the front one (comes on when the doors are opened etc) that no reason why you can't tap in to that one.
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15th Mar 2021 8:54am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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Yes, it works. If you follow my link above, you'll see exactly that. Darren
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15th Mar 2021 9:28am |
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| big110 Member Since: 02 Nov 2016 Location: Sweeden Posts: 342
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So positive from each lamp goes together and negative from each lamp goes together correct?
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18th Mar 2021 3:43pm |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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There are three wires to each lamp. If you take a spur from each and connect them to the matching terminals on the new lamp then yes, it'll work. Darren
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18th Mar 2021 9:22pm |
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| DSC-off Member Since: 16 Oct 2014 Location: North East Posts: 1432 
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There's 3 wires.
+ Positive - Negative, to the metal backing plate. and a switched wire, for the door opening switches. Just connect the same terminals on the new lamp to the same place on the original one.
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18th Mar 2021 9:25pm |
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| big110 Member Since: 02 Nov 2016 Location: Sweeden Posts: 342
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Thx guys. I got down the rabbit hole of watching parallel versus series wiring on YouTube and confused the bloody hell out of myself!
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19th Mar 2021 1:51pm |
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| big110 Member Since: 02 Nov 2016 Location: Sweeden Posts: 342
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Project Done! Many thanks. A few words for the next mate trying this
The 2014 Puma station wagon roof in both the rear cargo area and above the second row of seats doesn’t have enough clearance for the mudUK lamp without the plinth. In fact even with it, it’s tight. If you don’t have a sunroof running your jumper wires to the front lamp by the mirror is probably easier. Since I have one, I was forced to go to the rear light which is a pain in the arss as the headliner seam was nearly impossible to snake a wire above. Even with pulling 4 fir trees and pulling down as much as possible it was a MAJOR pain. But all is working and I’m very thankful to those who helped me on this. Cheers! |
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20th Mar 2021 10:05pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17480
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That's interesting, on a double cab there's plenty of clearance, but of course it's a different head-lining. |
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20th Mar 2021 10:39pm |
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