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trailbear



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Sill Protectors
I know this has been covered before with which sill protectors to buy for the Puma but I have recently fitted a full set from Nakatanenga and have to say that I am suitably unimpressed with the fit.
I wouldn’t have thought I should have to modify or find bigger fixings to use given the price of this set.

Has anyone else come across this issue, I personally think having the extended holes left on view looks very bad.
I know that Landrovers have questionable fit and tolerances and this is often accommodated for in products but I didn’t expect this from this company.

I think that perhaps I should have bought the YRM products kit as it doesn’t appear to have this issue but thought due to what I had read here regarding the stepped design this kit was better suited to my vehicle ( 2014 Puma )
Any thoughts?

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Post #890679 11th Mar 2021 10:00am
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lakelander



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That stepped design looks good but as you say the fit is poor. I fitted YRM brushed stainless. Less stylish but fitted Ok.
I would complain to supplier.
Post #890692 11th Mar 2021 10:17am
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trailbear



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Yes, I think I will have a word with the supplier, I just wanted to see what others thought of this issue
Before I said anything.
Post #890694 11th Mar 2021 10:19am
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discomog



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That would not be good for my ocd. It doesn't look like the usual design quality you would expect from Nakatanenga. Best to have a word with them. Defender 90XS SW
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Post #890695 11th Mar 2021 10:27am
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stephan123



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I've also got the Naka sills protectors and equally unimpressed with the final appearance. Pls let me know how you get on with the supplier.
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Grenadier



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".... I personally think having the extended holes left on view looks very bad.
I know that Landrovers have questionable fit and tolerances and this is often accommodated for in products but I didn’t expect this from this company. "

But haven't you asked your own question? Haven't Naka, because of their quality and experience with LRs (in)tolerances, done the thinking for their customer by offering a solution for variable hole positions in the sill without the need for angling screws or cutting new holes? That would look worse. Would a ss washer not cover it?

Also, for the step up, again a well thought out design detail. By putting the step in it accommodates thicker carpet and insulation whilst keeping the mounting plate flush to the sill. Cleaner finish and more robust. A flatter piece will always have its underside lifted off the sill by carpet, thereby creating a weak point and stressing against the fixing bolts.

IMO, far from it not being up to their usual standards, seen this way it certainly is the usual Naka quality and design. But I am judging this from a photo... Whistle Thumbs Up Monsieur Le Grenadier

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Post #890720 11th Mar 2021 11:34am
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trailbear



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Yes, I could fit bigger washers on the securing bolts but then I have to ask my self what is the point of the profile if you are adding washers thereby lifting the head of the bolt closer to the door rubber.
The way the carpeting is installed it only sits under the protector at the seat box portion but even then it doesn’t lift it by much but then if by adding washers it will lift the bolt head further to interfere with the door rubber.
Post #890732 11th Mar 2021 12:31pm
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Ianh



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Perhaps using stainless steel joint connector bolts would help, they have a large diameter head which is only a few millimetres high. So much wider diameter and narrower in height than your current button head set screws so may cover the slot completely. Just search for “joint connector bolts “ and you can see sizes available. Not ideal but may sort the aesthetics.

Ps. They are also called cross dowel bolts by some.
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Dinnu



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Perhaps not directly related to the topic of this thread, but wouldn't such a large stainless steel surface area not promote more galvanic corrosion? The seat box sides will be clad between the galvanized sill and the these stainless steel finishers.

Personally, I steer away. Agree that cosmetically they might look good to who can appreciate them, but I would never fit them on my Defender. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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Ianh



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^^^^^^^^^^^

Line the underside with duck tape and coat the fasteners with duralac
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Dinnu



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I fully understand and agree that you can isolate the parts, but once there is a bit of water that is less than pure, the circuit is closed. 1988 90 Hard Top, 19J Diesel Turbo, Shire Blue - Restoration ongoing
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Pacha



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There was a post fairly recently that linked to a company that does these with no bolt holes (stud welded to the underside). Looked really neat, but I can't seem to find it.

Those bolt slots would kill my OCD Big Cry Rgds.

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trailbear



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Yes, I saw them this morning and now I can’t find them Sad
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MussEd



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I've got a set of the Defender Upgrades black stainless version. Flat matte finish on top with no fixings on show but I can't get my doors to seat or seal properly so they're coming out as soon as these Naka ones arrive from 4x4Overlander. There will be a bargain for someone when I get them on to the classifieds.


I did notice that LRI solutions have a brushed stainless version (no double return) which have a coach bolt arrangement shown below - that'd hide the bolt hole if you need it hidden...just noticed my screenshot skills have let me down and it doesn't show the bolt magnified
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trailbear



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That must have been the ones I saw this morning.
Interested to hear what you think of the Naka ones, I just don’t think I can live with that
Finished look. To me it looks very amateurish especially given the price!
Post #890789 11th Mar 2021 5:12pm
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