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heldentage



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Air Suspension Balancing for Camping Mode
Hey all, has anybody any idea on how to use the air suspension for leveling the car for overland camping? As the L663 has all the information available and can control each tyre individually it should be easy to level (balance) the car instead of using the "good old drive-on wedges"?
Post #1031289 11th Apr 2024 4:54pm
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Moo



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I thought that they self levelled? Confused Eiger Grey MY23 D250 SE with bits. Known as Noddy.
Post #1031293 11th Apr 2024 5:23pm
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heldentage



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Nope - not at all
Post #1031295 11th Apr 2024 5:31pm
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J77



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I assume he means he’d like more air on one or more corners to compensate for any gradient it’s parked on? 24MY 90 D250 HSE, Tasman Blue
Post #1031296 11th Apr 2024 5:37pm
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WizzardPrang



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You can use the Rear Height Adjust controls to raise or lower the rear of the car, which would help fore and aft balance.


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Post #1031305 11th Apr 2024 8:58pm
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Lightwater



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A few blocks of wood. A bit like pencil & paper, getting back to the fundamentals! Visitor - Freelander owner
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stevemfr



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I use the IIDTool for this - and have since we came out with the very first version.

It is still a little, how shall I put it, work intensive. We don't have a "one button" solution (...yet. But we may or may not be coming out with something - not tomorrow tho. Still busy with the G4). It's not nearly as work intensive as blocks of wood, rocks or even the foldable ramps people with caravans and motorhomes use, tho.

I have to check for the L663 to make sure of the procedure, but on the earlier vehicles:
- you put the EAS into 'build mode' to incapacitate the EAS
- lay your level on your sleeping surface (I use a phone app)
- and inflate each corner as needed with the 'test valves' function

When you are finished camping, you exit 'build mode' and the EAS functions as before.

I will check on the procedure (terminology - in earlier vehicles build mode was called transport mode) and post back here. 
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P38, and 2 L322s,
2 FL1s and a L663 on the way
Post #1032171 19th Apr 2024 5:55pm
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stevemfr



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L663 is the same, the only difference is that the ECU/system is now called CHCM (Chassis Control Module) whereas in older vehicles it was the RLM (Ride Level Module).

Takes about 1-2 minutes to set the corner heights. 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s,
2 FL1s and a L663 on the way
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TexasRover



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Lightwater wrote:
A few blocks of wood. A bit like pencil & paper, getting back to the fundamentals!


The problem with a block of wood is that you need to get out of your car, so that's not going to work. Then what if some mud would stick to the wood? You are snookered then!

I bet you did not think of that did you! Boomers always think they know best!
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Sideways



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FWIW, that came across as weirdly aggressive!
Cheers
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heldentage



Member Since: 11 Apr 2024
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stevemfr wrote:
L663 is the same, the only difference is that the ECU/system is now called CHCM (Chassis Control Module) whereas in older vehicles it was the RLM (Ride Level Module).

Takes about 1-2 minutes to set the corner heights.


Hey Stevemfr,

Thank you so much for the feedback / I also have been in contact with Powerful UK (Simon) and he also gave me the info, that Gap Diagnostics with the IIDTool BT G4 is working on something.

Just a question: are you a customer of Gap or do you have any (in-)direct link to GAP?

Many Greetings
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stevemfr



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There's a reason for the signature. I've been a part of GAP since the beginning... Razz 
RRC 2Dr, RRC 4Dr,
P38, and 2 L322s,
2 FL1s and a L663 on the way
Post #1033668 2nd May 2024 9:19pm
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DFNDER



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For the L319 platform, a Czech company built and sold the X-Lifter, a plug and play module to let you customize ride heights, and add custom settings, etc. It also allowed individual corner adjustments to get the vehicle level, regardless of surface (within limits of course). Emailed them late last year, Jan told me they are working on a solution for the L663 platform. It's a "one button" solution for the L319, seems to me not that hard to adapt for the L663.

https://www.xlifter.com/?gad_source=1
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heldentage



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stevemfr wrote:
There's a reason for the signature. I've been a part of GAP since the beginning... Razz


Hey Steve,

Thanks again for your feedback - much appreciated / if you have any news or an update on this topic I would be really greatful.

Thank you in advance.
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Mark1107



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