Scrumps wrote:

Hi,

(1) I think you need to tweak your poll as LR don’t fit TDV6’s anymore.
(2) I drive a 19MY RRS AB having changed 2 yrs ago from a 16MY RRS AB - my fourth RRS - I can tell you that comfort, tech, headlights etc are chalk & cheese between the two. 19MY is fantastic.
(3) We had a 17 MY ( one of the 1st) D5 HSE’s for three years and it was a fantastic car for SWMBO - we sold it last year as SWMBO retired and wanted a ( slightly) smaller car. They are roomy, go quite well but are not as “planted” as the RRS on challenging roads.
(4) We are about to pick up a D90 D250 HSE and are expecting it to be a good “2nd car” which is more likely to off-road than the RRS but we need a 4x4 as we live in a rural location.
(5) Not sure about your “RRS cramped” comment, I’m not a small guy, but I find it quite roomy!
(6) X5 / Q7 etc - all I can say is that one of my work colleagues has bailed from Audi after four on the bounce and now drives a 20MY RRS HST having travelled in mine.

It’s your call, I’d upgrade the RRS if it were me, as mine puts a smile on my face every time I drive it, but I’m looking forward to getting SWMBO’s Def 90 too.

I hope that helps.

Scrumps

Oldyellar wrote:

Is there a new style RRS out soon?

Stacey007 wrote:

I looked at the new Defender, eagerly awaited... Viewed it, drove it.... somewhat underwhelmed to be honest.

Its nice, but just missing that "specialness" for me that a car has to have and being honest I could not bring myself to pay that much. I went on the configurator a few times but it was coming in at over £60K regularly and closer to £70k, I cannot get my head round the car looking worth that? inside its no fancier than many much cheaper cars? nothing special...?

I just could not see me selling my trusty old truck and buying one for so much more. Looking at it on the drive and not wanting to use it for muddy walks, collecting hay, animal feed, chucking 3m lengths of wood etc in it...


However my reasons and everyone's are different, I'm lucky and have different cars I can use in our fleet at home... If I had just one car then in the right spec, it does a lot of everything and its New...if you like that feeling of being the first or showing the latest plate... So for a single car maybe it would be higher up a list?


For me an opportunity came along out of the blue... my dad was changing his car and was telling me about the 'deal'. I thought about it and the price he was being offered was just too good to miss.

So I bought his 3 year old FFRR off him, with a lovely spec, Radar cruise, heated and cooled seats, heated wheel, full electric roof, etc etc...

I feel pretty lucky as I have the best of both now, the 110 stays and will carry on doing the animal feed runs, camping trips, towing, DIY wood etc collecting.... and we have the FFRR for a lovely drive, nice weekend away, comfy safe motorway trips..

If I want rugged, basic and smiles I then take the Series III out even the 110 feels nice after that.


If I were you can you try and get one on an extended test drive? for a weekend to see if it suits what you want of it? If buying second hand be sure what your looking at lots of base spec cars with the already 'old' engine being sold for strong asking prices.


Don't get me wrong I like them, its a Land rover after all, and maybe one day I will have one in the fleet but currently I'm more than happy I got to keep the 110 and add the FF


Lovely place to sit and waft along...

I hear you! FFRR is a dream, a bit too pricey and fancy for what we want, but the best for cruising for sure.
Great you got a good once, in right spec they are amazing!




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feniksss wrote:

Oldyellar wrote:

Is there a new style RRS out soon?

Late this year the FullFat, then prob next year new RRS but realistically end 22-23 I would think. And if its more of the same with more tech and more complicated screen based menus, that will put me off if anything.

Hard to see what they will improve in the new models, hybrids or similar really dont care...

I think given how complicated the new Def is with regard to infotainment and electronics, one can only suppose the new FFRR and RRS, will be equally complicated if not even more so as they will be aimed at a more ‘civilian’ biased market and will, in the case of the RRS be 2-3 years further down the evolution/development process. Doesn’t bode well. I love my Def dash. Dials, radio, clock. Sat Nav when needed otherwise stored in the cubby. Bliss  Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

Stacey007 wrote:

^

You have a good point, using these features in modern cars can be very distracting.

If I want the heating on on the 'old' Defender I just turn a dial.

The newer cars you have to use a joy stick or touch screen find the heating options, go into menus decide which bit of the cabin you want heat, press buttons or click a dial round.... Its meant to be progress

My wife's Mini we have had 3 years now and didn't even know on the informatics system for the sat nav you can 'type' letters on the mouse as it it was a screen to enter destinations.... ? all as your driving....

Don't get me wrong from a safety point of view the new v's old cars are no contest but the electric and gubbins to make them work is getting a darker art.

JOW240725 wrote:

I'm not sure if it's relevant but one of our contractors bought a New Defender while he waited for his New RRS SVR to be built. However, when the RRS turned up he was so impressed with the Defender (and was offered such a good price for the RRS) he sent the RRS back and kept the Defender.

feniksss wrote:

WOW turning down an SVR is worth a mention)
very interesting! which engine is his DEF?