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| Killer90 Site Sponsor Member Since: 09 Oct 2011 Location: Hertfordshire Posts: 6478   
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I have drove one in a 90 and didnt think much of it
 Best off sticking with a nice recon 300tdi engine bits are alot easier and cheaper to get hold of aswell as theres quite a few differences on parts  CSK Automotive
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27th Aug 2013 3:33pm |
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| Alex1976 Member Since: 23 Jan 2013 Location: Buckingham Posts: 596 
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Second what Chris says.....
I had this same dilemma when I rebuilt my Defender 2 years ago. In the end decided to go with 300Tdi, but I got a Turners recom unit with one of their P&P heads. A VGT turbo from Bell Auto Services, Twisted Intercooler, then tuned the injection pump. Really pleased with it as I feel I have all the benfits of a standard 300tdi for parts and servicing and reliability, but a lot more grunt. |
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27th Aug 2013 6:26pm |
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| Andy80 Member Since: 31 May 2013 Location: Essex Posts: 490 
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On paper the 2.8 has 135bhp / 277 ft lb of torque,which I guess is probably down to the variable vane turbo more the capacity!
Alex 1976 I guess your tweaked 300 has more go? Working towards Carry on camping! |
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27th Aug 2013 8:27pm |
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| Alex1976 Member Since: 23 Jan 2013 Location: Buckingham Posts: 596
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Never had it on a dyno but I reckon I am running about the same as a TGV. The VGT makes a huge difference as you get the turbo and torque kicking in so low and then sucj a flat power curve right through the revs. Pulls like the proverbial train.
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27th Aug 2013 8:50pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8049  
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i run two TGVs from M&D and love them both, far better than any Tdi in my experience. will chirp 33" tyres on an auto pulling away and the change up to 2nd if you boot it with the kickdown set for a harsh change.
the other TGV runs 37" fedimas through an auto. torque in std is the same as my td5 JE Eng stage 1 remap used to be! most parts that are likley to fail are same as 300tdi. exception driver belt and alt. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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27th Aug 2013 8:59pm |
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| Alex1976 Member Since: 23 Jan 2013 Location: Buckingham Posts: 596
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JST - Have you tuned your TGV's or do you run them in standard tune?
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27th Aug 2013 9:02pm |
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| adafish Member Since: 30 Mar 2009 Location: atherstone Posts: 1384 
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we have a special build 300tdi that's near completion down @ IRB, total blueprint engine with no expense spared....and its a 6x6 .....watch this space or our FB page....
 Putting Dreams on Drives at JLR Solihull.. |
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27th Aug 2013 9:24pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8049
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tuned. std on the truck cab for 4 years, have just (Feb) tweaked the pump std on challenge truck for 1 year, have just (Jul) tweaked the pump tweaks done with EGT guage both run non std intercoolers. truck cab runs an Allisport std size intercooler, challenge truck runs a large unknown make intercooler both vehicles run Allsiport rads. truck cab is std size one, challenge truck has a V8 one on the rear on elec fans. both run at 80deg C. Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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27th Aug 2013 9:45pm |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8049
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if i was doing another build would i fit another TGV - yes. Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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27th Aug 2013 9:47pm |
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| Andy80 Member Since: 31 May 2013 Location: Essex Posts: 490
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Ok, So modified Tgv's look impressive and likewise tuned 300s too .....
but has any one built a stroked 300tdi using Tgv crank, pistons and rods? Such a kit is available  Working towards Carry on camping! |
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28th Aug 2013 5:10am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8049
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i'd be more tempted to buy a 2nd hand TGV first - there was one on D44 forum not so long ago Cheers
James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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28th Aug 2013 5:32am |
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| Andy80 Member Since: 31 May 2013 Location: Essex Posts: 490
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Ooooo interesting! Fancy that!  Working towards Carry on camping! |
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28th Aug 2013 6:53am |
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| dnorrishill Member Since: 15 Jul 2011 Location: Hampshire Posts: 615 
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Anyone know whether they still make the 2.8 TGV, looking at their website they only have a MaxxForce 2.8H listed:
http://www.nav-international.com.br/site.aspx/Vehicular |
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28th Aug 2013 11:02am |
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| jst Member Since: 14 Jan 2008 Location: Taunton Posts: 8049
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http://www.mdengineering.co.uk/index.php?a...p;cat_id=1
M&D are the people Cheers James 110 2012 XS Utility 130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper 90 2010 Hardtop 90 M57 1988 Hardtop |
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28th Aug 2013 12:12pm |
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