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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17427   
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Unfortunately the video has been removed. I presume that its trip through the ford was uneventful? |
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6th Feb 2021 3:08pm |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829  
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Morons is certainly the right word. I’ve no issues with people co*king about, even risking their lives doing it, but it’s the complete disregard for others or in this case ‘other things’ that gets my goat. That pond’s wildlife must love all that diesel, transmission fluid, hydraulic fluid and general detritus. As you say, morons. Disrespectful, ignorant morons. Monsieur Le Grenadier I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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7th Feb 2021 7:45am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I'm slightly torn ~ didn't Camel Trophy, back in the day, do almost exactly the same thing?
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7th Feb 2021 8:30am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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I think that 'back in the day' is the pertinent phrase there. One of the reasons they fell out of favour was the perception of thrashing through somebody else's' country with little regard for the environment. Still fun to watch though. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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7th Feb 2021 9:00am |
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| Lodelaner Member Since: 04 Feb 2010 Location: Lambourn Posts: 632 
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In the video there’s a Hyundai Ioniq electric crossing Rufford Ford. Generally elec does better in water than internal combustion engines. The rot sets in much later. JB @Lodelaner Instagram Youtube greenlaning and other LR related content |
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7th Feb 2021 10:03am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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"Cause: Various quality issues with regards to body sealing, harness grommet fitment."
And the kicker for a company that wants to look after it's customers: "please only repair the leak points as reported by the customer." So quote this SSM and say they all do! 
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7th Feb 2021 10:38am |
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| donmacn Member Since: 06 Nov 2017 Location: Nth Scotland Posts: 1845 
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I generally don't comment on threads or posts relating to the new Def. - I just don't feel like I have any stake in it, so to speak. However those pictures above are quite striking. That's a lot of leak points for a brand new vehicle designed to be a class-leading off roader, isn't it?
Are these supposed to be sealed in reality, but leak due to poor quality control? Donald 1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong (The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html ) 2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8 in the past.. RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi 1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box 1993 Discovery 300Tdi not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper... |
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7th Feb 2021 10:55am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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It's there in black & white from JLR:
"Cause: Various quality issues with regards to body sealing, harness grommet fitment." |
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7th Feb 2021 11:04am |
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| Leamreject Member Since: 19 Dec 2020 Location: Middle Earth - Leamington Spa Posts: 970  
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Isn’t this a design feature, you won’t need to open the door and flood the compartment to regain traction should it start to float...
 Ride like you stole it!!
If I’m not on a bike it’s because only a 4x4 will do… 2011 2.4 Puma 90 HT |
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7th Feb 2021 11:36am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5829
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That is shocking. I’m still amazed that a company run for a decade by a German who learnt his trade over 20 years working for possibly the best built cars on the planet (BMW) never managed to get on top of QC, arguably JLR’s greatest reputation failing, during his tenure. Surely that should have been the first thing he addressed? Instead they still bounce around the bottom of the reliability pile. And now they’ve got someone from Renault, who haven’t had the most illustrious history in reliability...
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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7th Feb 2021 11:39am |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2163 
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To be fair modern quality control has nose dived in the last few years with the 'leading' german brands now seem far the worst offenders......
Suspect its all about extracting the maximum profit from the lowest cost |
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7th Feb 2021 11:53am |
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| SN Member Since: 29 Jun 2007 Location: SK6 Posts: 729 |
Irritates me that LR use the word "concern" in all of these kind of notices/responses/advisories when we all know the correct word is "fault" or "failure" but of course that would infer an admission of something that's LR's fault and we can't have that now can we? Steve N | 21MY Defender
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7th Feb 2021 12:49pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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And wading also giving phantom software errors?
"Cause: Software error within the PSCM (Power Steering Control Module) that is most likely to occur after wading." Click image to enlarge
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9th Feb 2021 9:29am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Click image to enlarge That's not good... |
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8th Aug 2021 3:29pm |
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