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Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3294

2010 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black

New Ford Mustang

Is an EV.

https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-news/new-car...el-y-rival

Quote:

The model will initially be launched with two battery pack sizes and three power outputs. The entry-level version will feature a single motor driving the rear wheels, with either a 75kWh battery and 254bhp motor or a 99kWh battery and 285bhp motor. Both produce 307lb ft, with a claimed 0-62mph time of under eight seconds and WLTP range of around 280 and 370 miles respectively.

The twin-motor all-wheel-drive version is offered with a 75kWh battery and 254bhp, or 99kWh and 332bhp. Both versions provide 429lb ft and a sub-seven-second 0-62mph time, with estimated ranges of 260 and 335 miles. Charging is available through an AC home charger or via DC fast chargers at up to 150kW.

WARNING.
This post may contain sarcasm.

Last edited by Zed on 18th Nov 2019 7:17pm. Edited 1 time in total

18th Nov 2019 6:44pm

Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 3677

Not completely sold on the looks, but function over form from an aerodynamic perspective and I sort of like that, makes it honest. £40k price point is good, as is range. Bold move!

18th Nov 2019 6:57pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3294

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50460241

Quote:
The top-range version of the car can travel up to 370 miles on a full charge and recharge 57 miles (92km) of range in 10 minutes on a high-power charge.

I'm not sure if my 110 can do 370 miles on a tank. WARNING.
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18th Nov 2019 7:09pm

Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 3677

I know my 90 can’t, not even close!!

18th Nov 2019 7:21pm

Brucech

Member Since: 15 Oct 2018
Location: Perthshire
Posts: 10

1998 Defender 90 V8 Petrol 50th Auto Chawton White

Just spec’d a top of the range AWD/ big battery model - now comes in at £58k!

18th Nov 2019 7:26pm

tookaphotoof

Member Since: 18 Mar 2013
Location: dordrecht
Posts: 1279

2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 HCPU Santorini Black

Calling it a Mustang... What a joke!

18th Nov 2019 11:32pm

shropshiredefender

Member Since: 05 Jun 2017
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 834

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

Looks like a pumped up Mondeo.
I've had it with manufacturers trying to capture their past success by using a name from a great model on their new, boring non internal combustion engine stuff.
My brand definitions
Jaguar - Gentleman's saloon with I6 around 4.0l.
Range Rover - Go anywhere 4x4 with American 3.5 litre V8.
Land Rover - Basic farmers friend, copied from Jeep. 2.25 petrol I4.
Ford - Simple rep-mobiles graded L, XL, Ghia etc to establish rank of driver.
Jeep - simple basic 4X4 featured in wars from WW11 to Vietnam and beyond.
FORD MUSTANG - Epic American V8 powered monster - great straight line speed -not so good in the twisties.
Rant over. Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right.

19th Nov 2019 4:43pm

Grenadier

Member Since: 23 Jul 2014
Location: The foot of Mont Blanc...
Posts: 5822

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Corris Grey

Is it a legal requirement that all EV cars have to be ugly/weird? Monsieur Le Grenadier

I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list.....

2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey

19th Nov 2019 5:08pm

Zed

Member Since: 07 Oct 2017
Location: In the woods
Posts: 3294

It would seem so.

With the exception of the VW Golf, which is errr..a VW Golf. WARNING.
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19th Nov 2019 5:14pm

gazman

Member Since: 17 Aug 2015
Location: Liverpool
Posts: 652

I'm not sold on the stupid big iPad or the back end, but by the time I can afford one probably all cars will look like that anyway 2014 - current ..... 2003 defender td5 90 (my car)
2009 - current .... 2005 zx10r

20th Nov 2019 5:47am

90 Dreamer

Member Since: 13 Jul 2019
Location: Oop North
Posts: 2161

2016 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey

same inside as a Tesla and even some of the styling seems to mimic it...........

20th Nov 2019 10:36am

kmac

Member Since: 07 Oct 2009
Location: Middlesex
Posts: 1309

2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Santorini Black

Zed wrote:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-50460241

Quote:
The top-range version of the car can travel up to 370 miles on a full charge and recharge 57 miles (92km) of range in 10 minutes on a high-power charge.

I'm not sure if my 110 can do 370 miles on a tank.

Maybe not, but it would take you a few minutes to fill it up again......versus however long it takes to re-charge to get another 370 miles of range from the electric.

20th Nov 2019 10:37am

boxoftricks

Member Since: 06 Feb 2019
Location: Home Counties
Posts: 747

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Zermatt Silver

Be interesting to see the impact on Tesla...... The mighty traditional manufacturers should be able to deliver a better product faster and cheaper than them. I think Telsa's sales will drop significantly.

20th Nov 2019 11:11am

Ads90

Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds
Posts: 809

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green

There will be a diluting of the market for sure, but Tesla have such a massive head start & technical expertise in BEVs & the charging infrastructure that its the trad manufacturers that are on the back foot.
Even the new Porsche gets microscopically compared to the Tesla, and doesn't come out a clear winner, just an interesting alternative.
Agree others will produce faster & cheaper in time, but I think an analogy may be that of Apple & iPhone - yes, market share shrinks as others produce similar faster & cheaper, but Apple still selling strong even though they don't really have an edge anymore.
Competition is good, and as much as I'm not a fan of Mr Musk, it's Tesla that has forced the trads to move forward (just like the iPhone did).

20th Nov 2019 11:45am

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

Looks a bit like Ford is jumping on the X6, X4 and Merc GLC coupe format too - jacked up saloon car style won’t help handling of what is supposed to be a sports car. Ford has done a Land Rover Defender redesign on a once iconic model by the look of it....... Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

20th Nov 2019 11:52am

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