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Avelingporter



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One fault I have noticed is some people choose a dog on its looks rather than natural temperament of the breed. Think carefully of the dogs natural breed traits and find a match for you. You don’t wanting to try to train against their instinct.
One other tip is that not only you, but your partner and or kids all need training. If you dont all use the same commands the dog will be confused. A consistent approach is best. Remember how you say a command is almost more important that what you say. For instance a low male voice and a higher pitched female voice saying the same word will have a different emphasis for the dog.
I have to say I’m very happy with my 2 working black labs. Subtely different physique and temperament to the show version of the breed.



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Huttopia



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Mixed bag here. The two labs (yes the runty ginger at the front is a lab) are completely different in temperament, chalk and cheese to train and work but each has their super strengths and weaknesses! The little brown thing is a work in progress, a working cocker from a litter a local keeper had- she’s just the happiest little thing, happy the day has started, happy to be a dog, happy to beetle around doing ‘stuff’ all day. Completely different to train to the labs - a different starting point, but she’s fiercely intelligent and works on her terms. Great fun.

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Birdy



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"...just to add all of our dogs know the pecking order"

In nature it's the "leader of the pack" who eats first. I absolutely cringe at owners who feed their dogs scraps of their own food, suggesting to the dog that it's the equal of its master or mistress. Big no, no for me, it's an animal after all, and domestication (horse, sheep, cow whatever) by definition means that it's more dependent on humans than we are of them. Dogs need a reminder from time to time...

Agree that it's the owner who needs instruction and tuition, simple things like calling a dog to heel. A professional will point out that when you call a dog to heel it must run towards you from your right, then circle behind you to come to the normal position of being on your left with its muzzle touching you so it can feel which direction you're walking. Imagine you're running and it's running towards you. If it ran straight to your left side you'd probably trip over the bloody thing!

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C&M



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Avelingporter wrote:
One fault I have noticed is some people choose a dog on its looks rather than natural temperament of the breed. Think carefully of the dogs natural breed traits and find a match for you. You don’t wanting to try to train against their instinct.
One other tip is that not only you, but your partner and or kids all need training. If you dont all use the same commands the dog will be confused. A consistent approach is best. Remember how you say a command is almost more important that what you say. For instance a low male voice and a higher pitched female voice saying the same word will have a different emphasis for the dog.
I have to say I’m very happy with my 2 working black labs. Subtely different physique and temperament to the show version of the breed.



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Lovely looking working dogs and we keep looking for one, much better looking than the "show" types you see all over the place. Thumbs Up

totally agree with the command and voice.

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majorero



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We got a cross breed amstaf rescue dog (2 years). She's 13 years now and knows more people than we do. We had the chance trying her out 2-3 weeks before making a decision. You'll quickly see if the dog is suitable for children or not and I don't think it's per se dependent on the race. Our dog doesn't like children (contrary do race description) and hates puppies.
Discuss who should be the owner in case your partnership should come to an end.

Training: Spend a lot of time on training and bonding in the beginning. Consider taking off from work for 2-3 months. We went to a dog school 2-3 times a month for half a year and are so happy having done that. We often get comments on the street about how well behaved she is.

Read about the characteristics of the race you are considering and see if they suit your interests (but again - each dog is different).
Good luck with the planning!
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jst



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personally i think train your own dog. if you cant warm to it or find the time maybe what ever you wish to train it to do is not for you and possibly neither is the dog.

we have a set of words combined with hand signals later that the whole family are only allowed to use. Up, come, back, heal, stay is where we started, words are combined as trg goes on and signals/whistles added.

getting the children to use them is easy, getting the wife to do it is harder, far easier to ban her from interacting with dog(s) until she learns to do it right thus avoiding confused dogs.

i also banned puppies being picked up by my family from 6 weeks. dogs have four feet to keep them on the ground is my opinion.

Granted it all depends on what you want your dog for, i work mine and need them to respond and work with me. they do live in the house so some would argue are not true working dogs. They are also family pets but are not pampered but are well cared for, loved and rewarded as appropriate.

Different people have different needs for having or keeping a dog, nothing wrong with pampering the dog or letting it do as its pleases just dont get upset when it oversteps the mark if you haven't defined the boundaries.

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rockster57



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Thank you for the sound advice James. Those are lovely dogs. In fact lots of fine examples in previous posts too. Thumbs Up
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