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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17443   
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That should be fine, the only difficulty you may have is that the lip in the rim for seating the bead of a tubeless tyre makes it harder to fit or remove.
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11th Apr 2021 12:13pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I have that setup on another vehicle as it was prone to the beads coming off the rims and totally deflating the tyres when running at low pressures.
Only issue is the opposite ~ getting the beads to seat when inflating the tubes! |
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11th Apr 2021 4:38pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2031
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Thanks Blackwolf , I was hoping that would be the answer. Now to find a wolf rim and the right Michelin tube
Supacat, it’s good to know that someone else has this setup, and where I live we have a lot of tractors and farmers with machinery that needs tubes so I will pick one of the tyre services that deal with them and hopefully they should have the knack to fitting them. |
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11th Apr 2021 6:35pm |
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| v8bob Member Since: 14 Mar 2018 Location: Midlands Posts: 319 
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You can get genuine tubed type wolf rims.
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11th Apr 2021 7:09pm |
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| Ianh Member Since: 17 Sep 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 2031
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I would have gone Tubed rim if using a tubeless rim was not possible, but prefer to go for tubeless rim as I will use for subsequent tubeless tyres and you should not use a tubeless tyre on a Tubed rim.
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11th Apr 2021 7:54pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Watch how they do it and let me know if there's a trick. Tried alsorts including ratchet straps around the circumference but not really got a foolproof method. Was thinking some sort of bead blaster might be the way to go?  Click image to enlarge |
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12th Apr 2021 6:47am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17443
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Personally I have never found this to be a problem, bead lubricant and pressure have always done it for me. |
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12th Apr 2021 7:39am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Is that fitting tubes in wheels designed for tubes? My issue, I think, is in having tubes in tubeless rims and getting the beads to seat.
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12th Apr 2021 7:59am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17443
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Both or either. Over the years I have used tubes in both tube-type and tubeless carcasses, and on tube-type and tubeless Land-Rover steel rims, and haven't had trouble seating the bead. I haven't done any of this on alloy rims however. It is, of course, harder to get the bead to seat on a tubeless rim, but lubricant and pressure have always worked for me.
As far as I know the only combination that you must not use is a tubeless configuration on a tube-type rim, since (a) it will almost certainly leak because the rims are not air tight, and (b) the bead of the tyre is not sufficiently secure on the rim, allowing it to roll off into the well and deflate. So you must use a tube on a tube-type rim. If using a tube in a tubeless carcase you need to check for roughness or blemishes that may puncture or wear through the tube, and you should also check the rim for similar defects. It is possible to use a sleeve between the rim and the tube (as is done on old-fashined HGV rims) if this is a problem (sleeves are also generally used if you are fitting a tyre and tube to an old-fahsioned split-rim wheel). Incidentally I have never had any trouble with the inner tube valve stem with tubeless rims either. |
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12th Apr 2021 8:47am |
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