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nicknick



Member Since: 28 Feb 2011
Location: halifax
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England 2010 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Tonga Green
twisted performance re-map
went to the yorkshire show today and spoke to charlie from twisted performance about a re-map.
he said £470+vat

if i make an appointment to go to their place in thirsk they will carry out the map and then i can go for a test drive, if i like the map i pay for it, if not they take it off. sounds fair enough to me.

i have a good relationship with my dealer and they are not bothered about re-mapped cars under warranty and i know there are some good and some bad re-maps out there, all i want is more torque, im not fussed about fuel saving and in my opinion having your own diagnostic tool with a re-map is a bit sad. i just want to get in and drive a faster puma.

has anyone got a twisted re-map or experience of a good map on their puma i could get without me having a load of p**sing about with computers/emails/downloads/cables/goldfish/ black magic etc etc

thanks in advance Thumbs Up
Post #79989 12th Jul 2011 8:33pm
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BigMike



Member Since: 13 Jul 2010
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Do a search, there are pages and pages of it.

good things spoken about alive tuning, BAS tuning (also in yorkshire)

in fact from memory the maps that twisted use are from pete bell, or alive, cant remember which. might be Ian at IRB. One of them anyway, but twisted maps are not their own.
Post #79994 12th Jul 2011 9:30pm
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rusty66



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the above mentioned offer inhouse tuning, too, so you don't need a fancy programming device and cables - which I think are actually quite handy as eg in case of a dealer software update or an insurance claim you could return the car to factory setting and/or tuned setting anytime you have to. Additionally it helps you with diagnosing problems via fault codes.

If I am not mistaken they are also a little cheaper if you don't need your own programming device to take home.

For 470 I see no point in not going for the Alive or Bell tuning even at their place but then just putting the programming device in a drawer and forgetting about it.

BTW, I have a very nice, smooth and torquey tune from Alive and am very happy about Alive's customer service!

Good luck!
Boris


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Post #79996 12th Jul 2011 10:02pm
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Alive Tuning



Member Since: 01 Mar 2010
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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Havana
We are in Grimsby, only about an hour and a half away from Halifax, and we offer a really good forum user discount on all our tuning! Our RRP is £395+vat for a custom remap, but regular forum users will get 10% off this price. Wink

No computers/emails/downloads/cables/goldfish/ black magic for you to deal with, as I can sort it all out for you, No problem!

I can also check to see if you have the latest LR software version, and update it for free if required. I did this yesterday for another forum user's 2010MY Puma 90. Very Happy

There really is no substitute for a properly made bespoke remap.
Post #80004 13th Jul 2011 5:26am
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CR



Member Since: 28 Jan 2010
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Ireland 2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Santorini Black
I have a remap from twisted on a 90 svx, I am very happy with it, big improvement everywhere and totally smooth.

CR
Post #80072 13th Jul 2011 11:55am
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galawaygreen



Member Since: 16 May 2011
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Alive Tuning wrote:
We are in Grimsby, only about an hour and a half away from Halifax, and we offer a really good forum user discount on all our tuning! Our RRP is £395+vat for a custom remap, but regular forum users will get 10% off this price. Wink

No computers/emails/downloads/cables/goldfish/ black magic for you to deal with, as I can sort it all out for you, No problem!

I can also check to see if you have the latest LR software version, and update it for free if required. I did this yesterday for another forum user's 2010MY Puma 90. Very Happy

There really is no substitute for a properly made bespoke remap.


He means me Thumbs Up never had so much fun in a defender, it's so bloody fast!!!
Post #80098 13th Jul 2011 3:35pm
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90def



Member Since: 11 Apr 2011
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i had mine done by angel tunning £250 . i had a td5 before that was quick . but the puma is a lot better it pulls like hell in 6th gear at 1500 . give them a ring they are very helpfull on the phone . we had 3 cars done and they done them for £200 each the tunes are taylor made for your car i had 3 put on mine before i was happy
Post #80143 13th Jul 2011 7:06pm
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Alive Tuning



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If your going to buy a remap, I pays to use a company that specialises in the vehicle you have. There are many 'general' tuning companies that could do a remap for you, and they will almost certainly give you more power. However, since their knowlegde of a particular vehicle may be very limited, you will not see the results that a specialist could produce. Just because a company tells you they have tuned lots of these, it does not mean they know exactly what they are doing. My 9 year old son can find an injection map and make more power, but I wouldn't let him tune a car (not under the Alive name anyway!!!). There is so much more to it than that.

A specialist will have invested many tens of thousands of pounds (and hours of time) while developing their mapping for any one engine type. They would no doubt own the particular vehicle themselves to allow for further development, as things never stand still in this industry.

I think most people on here know who the specialists are in Land Rover diesel tuning. There are only two companies I know of who have the depth of knowledge to properly disable the EGR on the Puma, and we are one of those!

Just last week, I remapped a Renault Megane RS225, and it went very well indeed. However, I am not a Renault specialist and so the remap had it's limitations. I know a company that is a very highly regarded Renault specialist, and i am quite certain they could do more to make it even better, as they know what almost every byte of code does. It's their investment in product development for that marque that makes them a Renault specialist. The same is true for many other specialists, such as Thor (Nissan Skyline), Courtney (Vauxhall/Opel), Collins (Ford), and so on. Would you take a £200,000 Ferrari to someone who didn't specialise in them? Why would you with a £30,000 Defender?

Nobody can be a specialist at everything, although some have the front to tell you they are! Dig a little deeper before deciding who you're going to spend your money with. It's sad, but I have had to put right many cars that have been remapped, but not properly set up. As an example, I recently had a defender Td5 in that ran well in warm weather, but would then play up in the cold, as a map had been changed that threw everything else out! That remap was made by a company mentioned recently on this forum. This customer had already paid for this remap, but had to pay me for another, but at least he now knows it's right.

People often don't realise the complexity of what we do, and when presented with a product that looks the same ( a remap is just a remap, isn't it? ), why should they spend so much to have the work done by a high profile specialist, when you can buy a remap off eBay for £175, and they'll do it on your driveway!? Rolling Eyes
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K9F



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BigMike wrote:
Do a search, there are pages and pages of it.


206 Threads and five pages to be precise!!! Thumbs Up If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!
Post #80225 14th Jul 2011 9:15am
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