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NinetyTD4

Member Since: 22 Apr 2011
Location: North
Posts: 397

discomog wrote:
Looks like JLR are carrying on the tradition of the rear door fouling the jockey wheel. I have an Ifor Williams horse trailer and a "proper" Defender and yes the rear door hits the jockey wheel, it also hits the pull handles at the front of the trailer.

Nice to know they have carried over some of the design aspects of the icon

That looks like an awful short drawbar, what does it do in sharp turns? Our drawbar is quite a tad longer, so if you lift the jockey wheel and turn the crank handle to back, the rear door of the "RealDefender" (90 TD4) does open fully. Never forget: cars have owner, Landrover have field service personnel.

12th Aug 2020 12:52pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1763

Interesting people saying that the new D200 defender feels underpowered when towing. My 130HP TD5, while no race car, does OK even with 3T on the back!

12th Aug 2020 2:57pm

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3391

Granted it was a 6 cylinder but my D3 with 190hp wasn’t too shabby at towing.

12th Aug 2020 4:12pm

Bluest

Member Since: 23 Apr 2016
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 4206

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

I think people's expectations have changed. People expect cars to tow like there's nothing on the back these days, which is why so many caravans end up smashed to matchwood on the M5 every summer

2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS

12th Aug 2020 4:40pm

J77

Member Since: 04 Nov 2019
Location: Fife
Posts: 3391

Towing test

13th Aug 2020 1:35pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

3 miles per US Gallon in a 21st Century car.................amazed you don’t destroy the Cat pouring that much petrol through the engine. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

13th Aug 2020 1:47pm

miker

Member Since: 13 Sep 2015
Location: Surrey
Posts: 1763

Be fair. 3.8mpg (US) and on an 8mile climb with 3400kg of trailer behind. It's atrocious, but I can't say I'd expect many vehicles to do better, especially not powerful petrol ones.

13th Aug 2020 2:02pm

Tim in Scotland

Member Since: 23 May 2007
Location: The Land that time forgot
Posts: 3753

It will be interesting to see which tune of 3.0ltr straight 6 they fit - the D350 in the Sport pumps out 350hp and 700nm of torque and IIRC it’s a “Federalised” engine that can be used in the USA. D240 is very nice but 350hp/70nm........... wouldn’t say no but i bet it will come with huge sticker price I’d imagine - RRS HST with it starts at £86000 with out any options Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed!

13th Aug 2020 2:09pm

alantd

Member Since: 14 Dec 2008
Location: Northamptonshire
Posts: 1513

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

miker wrote:
Interesting people saying that the new D200 defender feels underpowered when towing. My 130HP TD5, while no race car, does OK even with 3T on the back!

It’s a good point. I still tow with my Puma Defender but I don’t expect much pace - and I’m not disappointed 👍

I think my point is in comparison with other vehicles in LR range, the D200 will be working pretty hard. Similar to the old Defender, pulling up an incline with a heavy load behind is slow work (long hills and on-ramps). Whereas my D5 had plenty of grunt and would make a respectable pace, the D240 Defender struggles to build much pace. Fine for me but probably frustrating for those behind me. Still better than my other Defender, though, which would be labouring away at 35mph in 3rd or 4th.

My conclusion (personal opinion for personal circumstances) is that the D240 is perfectly good for what I require and the way I drive. In normal driving conditions, it drives like a decent SUV and it tows solidly. I’d probably be looking for more grunt from a D200 and I’m sure the Petrol engines do a fine job. One that started out as a 2.4 TDCi 110 XS
+ New Defender 110 First Edition

16th Aug 2020 8:34am

BigCol66

Member Since: 16 Aug 2020
Location: Mid Wales
Posts: 36

What sort of weights do you tow with your new Defender and what type of towbar did you go for?

24th Aug 2020 7:23pm

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