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| rockster57 Member Since: 15 Nov 2014 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 937   
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12th Jul 2020 9:03am |
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| Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1283 
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And what about the Minerva, Def9?
Great chunks of it are from Solihull, other chunks made in Belgium where it was assembled. Now many are being re-imported into the UK. I think Grenadier has got it about right, even though I would prefer 100% British. |
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12th Jul 2020 10:24am |
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| X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 
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INEOS Grenadier Is it British?
Idea (probably) Yes. Design No* Product Development No* Components No* Ultimate Build Location Maybe (but actually unimportant) *International What matters is...is the concept right (enough). It has to be right for the Market or be so good that a Market is created. If the concept is wrong no number of ideas will correct this. The original Land Rover (from which every LR product originated) was right enough LR have progressively taken the vehicles up-market and to a large degree they are more capable. The new Defender has (IMO) has stepped too far away from a Utility Platform allowing any number of bespoke work-specific solutions to be readily produced. The INEOS Grenadier looks to have re imagined this concept with apparently the design ethos to use 'more or less' the best available irrespective of nationality... for some time now most 'complex' products have been sourced from an 'international parts bin', our Defenders are no different. I hope the Grenadier is built really (really) well and if so it could build a name for itself and in the process attract the market who just can't look at the new Defender and imagine buying one. If INEOS can also get in under the eye watering new Defender Price... they are half way there... SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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12th Jul 2020 12:25pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4667 
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With a longer warranty. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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12th Jul 2020 1:25pm |
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| defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1629 
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Yes of course Slidey, I hadn’t forgot about them but from comments I have read people don’t tend to diss Minervas to the same extent like they do with an Aussie import, maybe due to the fact that they are generally seen as good value for money and generally cheaper than an Ex Aussie vehicle. |
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12th Jul 2020 6:42pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816  
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Like this guy’s pragmatism. Hits some nails on the head there.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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12th Jul 2020 8:11pm |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3149 
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I understood this is more to do with the great difficulty involved in registering them in the UK rather than any technical issue, as they are identical to UK built vehicles, just generally less rusty. 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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13th Jul 2020 5:38am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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Certainly a point of view I can respect.  |
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13th Jul 2020 6:31am |
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| defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1629
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As long as you have the date of assembly in Australia which is available if you know who to contact within Land Rover then registration isn’t difficult. For ex CKD vehicles from say South Africa where records don’t seem to exist then yes I would say it’s almost impossible to get registered in the U.K. |
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13th Jul 2020 7:10am |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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If you exclude all the engineering done in: Hungary India China USA Ireland Click image to enlarge And there's more built abroad than just those two... |
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13th Jul 2020 8:22am |
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| Orchard Member Since: 07 May 2015 Location: Usually walking the dog Posts: 258 |
Clarification:
All JLR models are manufactured in the UK except; Disco and Defender built in Slovakia plant I-Pace and E-Pace are manufactured under contract by Magna Styr in Austria Some models are also built in markets for local tariff reasons; Disco Sport, Evoque, E-Pace, XE lwb and XF lwb manufactured in China with Chery JV CKD Kits exported from UK for build of some products in Pune, India, and in Brazil 2015 90 XS SW Bowler 1998 TD5 CSW |
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13th Jul 2020 8:30pm |
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| Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772 
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^^^^^
That seems not very 'all' to me?  Rgds.
Chris |
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13th Jul 2020 9:29pm |
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| Orchard Member Since: 07 May 2015 Location: Usually walking the dog Posts: 258 |
 2015 90 XS SW Bowler
1998 TD5 CSW |
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13th Jul 2020 9:33pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Slide from June 2018: Click image to enlarge In addition the Ingenium engines are currently manufactured in 3 locations: UK China India Not to mention the other overseas operations: 5 Regional Offices 23 National Sales Offices Purchasing offices in Brazil, Slovakia, Hungary, China & India. |
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14th Jul 2020 8:28am |
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