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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308   
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having just read a few more news articles I'm not sure which side of the fence to sit.
without these protests I'm not sure if we'll see an increase or decline in the drugs industry and rambo style knife sales. oh it a complicated world we live. if the above makes no sense then don't worry. None of it makes any sense to me either. I just hope they don't take it too far. that statue in bristol thrown in the river cos he was pro slaves. weren't those pyramids made by slaves - should we flatten them too? like I say - it's all a bit too complicated. time for a cup of tea. 
ps. I think we should keep the pyramids but I can't be bothered to start a protest. |
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19th Jun 2020 5:10pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3685  
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Things are verging on the absurd at the moment, and predominantly fuelled by the media. I actually think they are to blame for the majority of what is happening at the moment. Don’t get me started on social media!!
These are certainly very strange times we live in. I honestly thought we had left the issues of racial discrimination in the past where they deserve to be (along with all other forms), but perhaps I’m just ignorant or sheltered. The whole concept is absurd, using skin colour to decide on what a person is like is no more logical than using the colour of their socks. |
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19th Jun 2020 5:49pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308
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I agree on the colour issue too - it's the culture that needs sorting out.
I have some fairly lame views and feel that hanging and firing squad should be practiced more frequently and those pushing drugs, using rambo knives and grooming young girls should all join the above queue regardless of colour. the thing that gets me however is this profiling business. people seem to think it's discriminatory however if your looking for a repeat offender rapist you're not likely to looking for a lady in her 90's. the comment above about a line needing to be drawn I completely agree with only I suspect the line might be a bit wiggly. and reference the Hilter statue I just hope they don't pull all the WWII films  |
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19th Jun 2020 6:13pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17466 
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Throwing a statue in the dock doesn't mean that slavery didn't happen. The value of the statue is that it reminds us of the fact that terrible things have and continue to be done, and that we should always be objective. You can't undo history.
Bristol, Liverpool, and probably many other places wouldn't exist if it wasn't for slavery, should Bristol be razed to the ground (actually best not answer this)? I'd rather that these protesters work to stop the slavery that is still happening in this country today, with gang-masters etc., than worry about how their feeling are being upset by unchangeable history. |
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19th Jun 2020 6:57pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308
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what an excellent comment. |
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19th Jun 2020 7:13pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3685
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Bang on the money blackwolf. Zero can be done about the past, the focus should be on the present and future.
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19th Jun 2020 7:13pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2171 
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My own thoughts are similar to Blackwolfs and I think the 'best' thing is more education about the things that have occurred regardless of how dark they may be - that way we hopefully learn from our forebearers and don't repeat their undoubted mistakes
I also think we should stop judging 2-300+ year old values as if it was happening today - things have changed and moved on so whilst we should acknowledge it I don't feel the need to remove it?? Lastly I would suggest that most people 200yrs ago were mistreated and abused by wealthy land / mine / mill owners who simply saw them as a "cash cow" with probably the only difference they had not been transported thousands of miles from home In day to day life my general rule is that anyone I meet gets a decent chance, if they treat me like a prick or think they can take the pi&& then they don't get another.........I don't care which Martian empire you came from or what part of society, move along..... |
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19th Jun 2020 8:24pm |
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| Defender SVX Member Since: 29 Jan 2009 Location: Co Durham Posts: 729 
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Absolutely spot on! The same as the creation of these events and the backlash the guy died which was totally wrong regardless of colour or creed and despite local police practice or procedures! The officer has been arrested/ charged and rightly so as I hope any officials would have been under the circumstances. What is wrong is the following riots and vandalism that has been following as a means of protest and using the tragic death as a reason. People are becoming more and more angry and now using brexit, lockdown, coronavirus, Tesco running out of bread to create a riot. We were clapping like seals a few weeks ago for the NHS and key workers, yesterday I saw a guy in a newish Mercedes C63 AMG brake checking a Moran logistics artic (all supermarkets dairy supply) for daring to hold him up at the goods vehicle speed limit. We’re heading for civil war in this country! It’s been on the boil for a while and the upcoming recession will probably be the last straw. Formerly mao99999 16 Focus RS Nitrous Blue. 11 FFRR TDV8 Vouge SE Black Black. 08 DEFENDER SVX SOFT TOP (SUPERB) 08 DEFENDER 110 DCPU Stornoway grey (Overland Exploration Unit) 05 Fiesta ST 150 Van 04 Jaguar XKR 4.2 Supercharged V8 02 DEFENDER 90 TD5 (next years soft top project) 95 DEFENDER 110 CSW 300 TDi Phoenix black 95 DEFENDER 90 HT Monti Carlo blue COUNTY 300 TDi 67 109" SERIES 2a TUNED 200 TDI 64 DAVID BROWN 990 rat look 55 86" SERIES 1 |
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19th Jun 2020 8:30pm |
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