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Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1023 |
looking at getting a new mower, ideally a ride on mower, (dodgy knee, hip and back) any recommendations budget up £3k. 70% lawn is like the surface of the moon, around the house pretty good for a football field.
Very tempted by John Deere X146 but cant find under £3.3k any recommendations on best brands/models Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200 Puma 90 XS - Sold D3 - 2.7 S x2 (both Sold) Freelander 2 HSE - Sold Freelander 1 - Sold Disco 2 - Sold |
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12th May 2020 3:14pm |
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X4SKP Member Since: 29 Nov 2013 Location: Berkshire Posts: 2295 |
Hello Muddybigdog
Kubota (i'd put these in the Stihl category... but then again consider a Stihl) https://kuk.kubota-eu.com/groundcare/produ...on-mowers/ https://www.stihl.co.uk/STIHL-Products/096...owers.aspx SKIP https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic83242.html |
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12th May 2020 3:20pm |
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Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223 |
I bought a 2nd hand Kubota GR2100 11 a few years ago, having wasted money on Countach and Deere which were pretty shoddy and did not last very long cutting our 3 acres of lawn. It runs on red diesel which is a nice saving and other than an annual service has not been out of use.
I would personally go this route again . 1983 Series 3 Pick up in Marine Blue 1967 Morris Traveller 1966 Morris Convertible 2012 VW T5 Camper Quod Abundat Non Obstat. |
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12th May 2020 3:31pm |
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mini Anaconda Member Since: 23 Aug 2016 Location: Thames Valley Posts: 786 |
Get a Kubota if you can find one in budget - will go on for ever and well made.
I used a John Deere X166 for about a year which replaced a Kubota and I was not a fan. Poor build quality and did not feel up to the job. Shame as the agricultural John Deere tractors are very good. BORG - Bucks & Oxon 4x4 Response Group |
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12th May 2020 6:37pm |
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Brucech Member Since: 15 Oct 2018 Location: Perthshire Posts: 10 |
Not sure of the availability of used models but Cub Cadet gets my vote - I’ve had the Tank model for 6 years now & it’s great - 60’’ cut makes short work of our 8 acre of paddock - good heavy duty machine serviced yearly.
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12th May 2020 6:54pm |
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grafty99 Member Since: 15 Aug 2012 Location: North Devon Posts: 4786 |
I've heard good things about Cub Cadet - but have no direct experience myself.
Over the last 25 or so years we have put well over 10,000 hours and probably 20 different members of staff on the 5 Kubotas we have had over those years. We have had 1 breakdown in that time and that was caused by a rouge stone flicking up and wedging itself in the PTO belt, shredding it in a matter of seconds. New belt ordered and it was back in action the next day 2002 90 Td5 Station Wagon 1990 Vogue SE Triumph Tiger Explorer 1200 Td5 90 Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic50767.html Tdi 110 Thread https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69562.html RRC Thread http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic54492.html Instagram http://www.instagram.com/george_grafton |
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12th May 2020 7:08pm |
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Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3521 |
If you are struggling to raise £3.3K for the JD, I would not bother looking at a Kubota.
Kubota are really good, but they are expensive. As they are used commercially, anything second hand and cheap is likely to have high hours and / or abused. I have a zero turn Ariens Ikon. I had never heard of them, but I have a friend who works in horticultural engineering and he said they were good. Sadly, new, this would be above £3.3K. You may find one second hand. I have clocked up 250 hours on the Ariens over the last 3 years and I think it is brilliant. Sadly, my local dealer burnt down to the ground and their other branch is closing There were a couple in their showroom which got destroyed. As Swine and Small says, a diesel mower will save you money in running costs. The Kawasaki 650 V Twin on the Ariens does drink petrol. Ariens Company actually own Countax and Westwood (the latter two are almost identical mowers, bar some bonnet and decal details). I have had maybe five Westwood mowers and each one has been progressively less robust. I am not sure if the John Deere is a rebranded product (i.e. has no actual resemblance of the big green tractors). I did look at JD before I got the Ariens. They look ok. Other point, I have a mulch kit on my mower. I had a mulching deck on the last Westwood. If you get a mower that mulches, you need to cut little and often. Don't expect the mower to cut five inches off the top of the grass and for it to look neat. It will be a mess. If you need to pickup your clippings, nothing much beats the Westwood / Countax powered sweeper collector. It will pick wet grass up with no issues. Anything that blows grass up a tube into a bag has the ability to block up, especially when wet. The only mower that has a tube and bag collection system that I have seen work in the wet is the Kubota. Back to my previous comments about Kubota and why I like them |
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12th May 2020 7:55pm |
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Swine&Small Member Since: 20 Mar 2017 Location: Norfolk Posts: 1223 |
Other points that I failed to mention on the Kubota are that it has 4 wheel drive, (should go down well on this forum), and power steering which is excellent around trees. Mine had done 250 hours and was about on your budget limit .
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12th May 2020 8:15pm |
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boode Member Since: 11 Apr 2012 Location: Devon Posts: 430 |
I bought a secondhand Stiga 4WD
it’s an artic steer so turns on a sixpence - good if you have lots of obstacles to cut around it halved the time taken to cut my lawn compared to the countax (because of the turning circle saving time) Highly recommend a Stiga |
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12th May 2020 8:34pm |
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mini Anaconda Member Since: 23 Aug 2016 Location: Thames Valley Posts: 786 |
I think the newer John Deere ride ons are a rebrand - the L105 and X166 that I used did not seem to be up to the job and felt very cheap and plasticy - despite the fairly expensive price tag. I did hundreds of hours on a old Kubota G1700 - it blew the grass up the tube and into the bags which did a really good job but it struggled in long wet grass, not so much blocking up but the blower unit zapped a lot of power from the engine - though it was 25 years old with over 2500 hours and little to no servicing so not surprising. It would cut through any grass in the paddocks discharging out the side of the deck without the blower. Sadly the grass in my garden can be cut with a Flymo, but if I needed one it would definitively be a Kubota, but probably out of budget. BORG - Bucks & Oxon 4x4 Response Group |
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12th May 2020 8:52pm |
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Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4218 |
Those Grillo ones that look like go karts look like fun, especially the 4wd ones with Chevron tyres. Probably very expensive though. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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12th May 2020 9:00pm |
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Slideywindows Member Since: 09 Sep 2016 Location: North Essex Posts: 1286 |
I'm sure the others are right, if you want heavy duty and very long service.
But for my lawns I bought this little Atco, twin blade 38" cut, ride-on mower in March. Quite a simple and relaxing ride. (I just wish it didn't cut out every time I lift my bum off the seat!) £1,915 inc VAT and delivery. Click image to enlarge |
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14th May 2020 9:23pm |
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JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7907 |
I'd normally say go and visit your nearest TNS branch, but most showrooms are currently closed. Kubota are the best, but Stiga are decent too, but more economical options too. James
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14th May 2020 9:32pm |
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Chopperone Member Since: 13 Nov 2016 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 396 |
Hi
I think l am quite qualified to answer this What Rashers says bears out my own thoughts/experiences. I cut a lot of grass; currently we operate an Ariens (same as Rashers), a Cub Cadet & a JD F1145. The Ariens is really fast but you know you have been mowing IF the ground is bumpy.l fitted the uprated seat ( total waste of time). JD F1145 - she’s an old girl but she does some work & starts absolutely on the button ( first turn having stood all winter). An absolute pig to work on as access to any broken part is a nightmare.2 days to remove belly tanks to renew rubber internal pick up hoses ! Cuts almost anything & can do it a high speed IF you can hang on. Cub Cadet - fast ,very comfortable,zero turn,easy enough to work on but mine is under warranty. I had two problems when a drive train hanger broke then the anchor point broke; made of Chineseium metal.Otherwise great. We also had a little JD x120 - total crap- ok when it was new but rusted away,bits broke quite readily,parts expensive & poorly made.lf your lawn is like one shown in the brochure & your Grandad cuts it for you at 2mph & washes/waxes your mower then it might be ok. Personally if l was looking for a mower l would get a second hand commercial mower rather than a small ride on. Just depends if you can store it & it works for your lawn layout. The Ariens & Cub Cadet are great but cost me around £13k but then we have probably 15 acres of grass to cut at least once a week. Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful. |
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15th May 2020 7:16am |
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