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Bluest



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Arborist/Tree Surgeon advise
I'm in the process of removing some pine trees that are too close to my neighbours house for comfort. They are all healthy, but want to get rid of them now before they get big enough to do any serious damage should they want a lie down in a storm.

I'm tackling most of them myself, but there are some in the 30ft to 40ft-ish range that are too big for me to deal with safely. I will need to get someone who knows what they are doing to take them down. All I want doing is them felling onto my land, I can deal with slicing them up and disposal once they are down. They are close enough that if they go the wrong way, they'll end up on someones house, so it needs to be done right.

Having never had this job done before, do I need an arborist, or a tree surgeon, or just "A1 Tree Services" and their white Transit tipper? Laughing How do I know they are competent? There seem to be a lot of folks advertising this sort of work.

Also, any ball park suggestion of what I should expect to pay to have say 4 trees taken down? 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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gilarion



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At 40ft a tree surgeon will lop them in stages from the top. Not such a great problem with pine roots as they do not have that bigger root system however if you wish a tree surgeon will grind out the root ball as well. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at..

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Bluest



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I don't need the stumps grinding, they can just be cut off as low to the ground as practical. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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blackwolf



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You could put a post on "arbtalk" and solicit interest from an arborist or tree surgeon, or just get a couple of local quotes. It sounds like a straightforward job.

www.arbtalk.co.uk
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Zed



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First off you need to check you are not in a conservation area or if there are TPO's on the trees. Easy to check on your local council website. If there is you will need to put in a planning application. An arborist can check for you but may charge. Then you can get some quotes. The Arboricultural Association have a list and there is a directory on Arbtalk.co.uk
There is also a homeowner section on there where you can get advice. Be clear, give as much info as possible and also post photos if you can. https://arbtalk.co.uk/forums/forum/79-home...ice-forum/

Do not go anywhere near those flybynight characters. They won't be insured so you will be liable for any damage done not only to property and persons but aso if they injure themselves, or 'claim' they have been injured you will be liable for that too. WARNING.
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Felling them in one piece and dealing with them on the ground is by far the easiest and safest way. If there are ‘unreceptive targets’ in falling range then you’ll want a winch on it just to ensure control of felling direction.

Any competent tree surgeon will be able to do it for you if you’re not comfortable doing it yourself.
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I used an old climbing rope, and a couple of mates to make sure they fell the right way, and make sure you pick a day with no wind, or the wind in the right direction to hep you.

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Supacat



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Re: Arborist/Tree Surgeon advise
Bluest wrote:
Also, any ball park suggestion of what I should expect to pay to have say 4 trees taken down?


I paid just over £400 to get these two taken down:

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Rigged a line and slid it down in sections:


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It was amazing to watch them work - there were two of them and it took most of the day to do, including chipping all the small stuff and cleaning up the big stuff for me to burn.


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Bluest



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Zed wrote:
First off you need to check you are not in a conservation area or if there are TPO's on the trees. Easy to check on your local council website. If there is you will need to put in a planning application. An arborist can check for you but may charge. Then you can get some quotes. The Arboricultural Association have a list and there is a directory on Arbtalk.co.uk
There is also a homeowner section on there where you can get advice. Be clear, give as much info as possible and also post photos if you can. https://arbtalk.co.uk/forums/forum/79-home...ice-forum/

Do not go anywhere near those flybynight characters. They won't be insured so you will be liable for any damage done not only to property and persons but aso if they injure themselves, or 'claim' they have been injured you will be liable for that too.


Would lanky pine trees likely have TPOs? I hope not, about ten have already gone for firewood Confused I better make some discreet enquiries. I was only jesting about the fly by nights, would not use them for anything.

I’ll check arb talk out. 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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Bluest



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Re: Arborist/Tree Surgeon advise
Supacat wrote:
Bluest wrote:
Also, any ball park suggestion of what I should expect to pay to have say 4 trees taken down?


I paid just over £400 to get these two taken down:

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Click image to enlarge


Rigged a line and slid it down in sections:


Click image to enlarge


It was amazing to watch them work - there were two of them and it took most of the day to do, including chipping all the small stuff and cleaning up the big stuff for me to burn.


Click image to enlarge


My trees are much less substantial than that, I don’t need them carving up into logs or disposal, so hopefully not a very expensive job Thumbs Up 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS
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