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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2190   
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How do they get away with that Simon, 85% pay status is legal for Furloughed workers only surely??
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7th Jun 2020 6:03pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4799
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My employer KIER reduced 8000 salaried workers salaries between 7.5 and 20% for 3 months thus saving them nearly 10 million pounds and also furloughed another 2000 workers who get 80% salary if we chose not to accept it the salary reduction then we would be offered redundancy!! Very gracious of them. 2015 HT XS 90
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7th Jun 2020 6:25pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3569 
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That's pretty rough
Although they are being upfront, I wonder how many companies furloughed staff, but still made them work ? |
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7th Jun 2020 6:41pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5239
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With me been in production, The company i work for, stated i could be on limited hours sadly. So instead of doing a full blown working week, i could be down to part time hours. A few lines are up and running but not sure if they are now on the proper books again. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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7th Jun 2020 6:45pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5239
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Be a fare few, what has been happening, is that some companies have furloughed their staff, then pulled the plug on their staff. So they end up on the rockin roll. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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7th Jun 2020 6:47pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2190
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And how could you do that?? Furlough is effectively a suspended role....... |
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7th Jun 2020 6:56pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3569
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About half of the people I work with have been furloughed.
My Boss has been very fair and strict with those staff. He is paying the extra 20% of their wages, strictly enforcing the no work rule and encouraging these people carry out on-line training - and within reason, paying for it. |
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7th Jun 2020 7:01pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5239
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you will be surprised on what companies are willing to try. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back
Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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7th Jun 2020 7:01pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3569
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How would anyone find out if a company furloughed Staff and then insisted they did work? I could quite easily have been furloughed and carried on working for my Boss! I haven’t been, but it would be so easy. As no one seems to be bothered in paying union subscriptions, there is no way of complaining, if you want to keep your job. |
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7th Jun 2020 7:05pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5239
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My work place did pay us 2 months worth of wages which was great of them, then furloughed. They stated if we decide to do some temp work, we would have to give back the wages etc. So i could do some part time temp work but for the faff on letting my employer know, and then them sorting that out. i just stayed mothballed, but i am stand by for a phone call though, to go back in for induction and work. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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7th Jun 2020 7:06pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4799
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That’s very fair of your boss to top up staffs wages, KIERS wouldn’t do that. They didn’t even offer us on reduced salaries a reduction in hours. We asked if furloughed staff could be paid 80% those working from home to be offered the salary reduction and those of us on site putting ourselves at risk to be paid full salary but that was a NO. Employees on hourly paid rates weren’t asked to take a pay cut because as HR put it “these staff are working on the coal face and are are still going to site each day” and who the hell do you think is supervising them I asked?  2015 HT XS 90
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7th Jun 2020 7:07pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3569
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In all fairness to my Boss, he hasn’t got the number of employees Kier has
He has been very fair, but there is a skills shortage out there in my type of employment so there is definitely a sweetener to stop people leaving. Whether after all this there will still be a skills shortage and plenty of work, that I don’t know? |
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7th Jun 2020 7:12pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5239
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Rashers, We are going into the un known here. my pal recons we are going to go into recession, which i can see that coming sadly. Some retail companies have already gone into administration sadly, One food joint i think isnt opening anymore.
The automotive industrial is well on its knees now, we were gearing up for nissans new car, but not sure if that's going to be delayed now. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back Success is 90% Inspiration and 4 minutes Preparation # you can make it! |
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7th Jun 2020 7:23pm |
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| Rashers Member Since: 21 Jun 2015 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3569
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I sadly think you are spot on there Procta
I have stopped watching TV news. I find it too negative. I get what I need from the Radio and BBC News website. I get depressed with experts telling ‘us’ what we should have done. Hindsight is a wonderful thing, isn’t it? No one knows what to do. We truly are within the unknown. |
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7th Jun 2020 7:46pm |
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