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mark13



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United Kingdom 2004 Defender 90 2.5 TD HT Cairns Blue
Fitting a bulkhead removal bar
Is this doable by a defender newbie coward or should it be done by an over priced garage or is it not worth doing at all.
Post #714145 24th Jun 2018 9:17am
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grafty99



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Depends if you are doing a full bulkhead removal or just the lowering bar.

Both allow for more leg room and seat recline.

The full bulkhead removal is a very involved job, plan a couple of days and full interior removal to do properly.

The drop bar is much easier and can be done in a morning (easier if the front seats are removed)

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Post #714148 24th Jun 2018 9:21am
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I was think of using this type of one, I guess this is the harder one!




Just to visualise me starting this


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Post #714150 24th Jun 2018 9:41am
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ssg



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Hi,
I did a full bulkhead removal and it wasn't bad at all. Took about 4 or 5 hours from start to finish on a 90 van. Seats and cubby removed, boot mat removed, sheet up anything else with decorating sheets just to stop the dust getting everywhere. The only parts that send sparks around are the steel reinforcing sections but most of those can be removed by drilling the pop rivets.
Then use a grinder and slitting disc to do the main cuts. Ant intricate work is done by hand with a hacksaw blade.
I finished off the cut edges with a file, painted and then covered with plastic U edging strip.
If you are fairly handy and have the tools and half a day its and easy job.
The Land Rover bar I bought of ebay (about 145 quid) came with instructions which was helpful.
Take your time and give it a go!
The results are brilliant, so much more space and feels much roomier.
Unfortunately I am away from home or I would send some picture.
Post #714152 24th Jun 2018 9:57am
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mark13



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Thanks grafty99 and SSG for the advice.

A mate is helping me install a mezzanine in my barn who is a metal professional metal fabricator (ex aerospace) . I could ask him to bring a plasma cutter with him and as long as I mark it all out and remove the seats, matting etc is should be quite quick shouldn’t it? Being new to this stuff, would a pro on a plasma cutter be better than me with a grinder and jigsaw? I thought it would be cleaner and more accurate.
Post #714159 24th Jun 2018 10:58am
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Tdi4



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I would say a pro with a grinder Laughing

I wouldn't use a plasma cutter inside the car and with a plasma cutter you have to grind/smoothen the edges. a defender from 1984 pretending to be a puma with a touch of Range Rover
Post #714160 24th Jun 2018 11:03am
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ssg



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Agree, slitting disc goes like a hot knife through butter. I did a half removal with a jigsaw years ago and got ali dust everywhere.
Post #714161 24th Jun 2018 11:07am
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Doesn't the grinder produce dust aswell? If not I will definitely do that, I can do it myself (technical by trade) but lack the faith, I think I will abuse my friendships and get Nic to do the actual cutting.
Post #714165 24th Jun 2018 11:23am
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no dust, just a lot of sparks

A grinder is a very handy tool but I too was intimidated in the beginning. And now I'am using it quite a lot. Just start practising on something simple and get the confidence with it.

And removing the bulkhead wouldn't be my first choice to start practising Laughing a defender from 1984 pretending to be a puma with a touch of Range Rover
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Post #714177 24th Jun 2018 12:59pm
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ssg



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No sparks from the Aluminium, just some dust but no where near as much as a jigsaw. Its only the capings which are steel and produce sparks but this is minimal as the capings can be removed by drilling the rivets.
Honestly its an easy job, just take your time.
Post #714182 24th Jun 2018 2:00pm
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ssg



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No need to remove the roof or side panels!
The video makes a meal of it!
Post #714183 24th Jun 2018 2:04pm
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Moneypit



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Did a full removal on mine but it was in bits so wasn't to bad to do. Found making up Ally angle pieces to reinforce the wheel wells and reshaping the capping far harder than cutting it out with a thin cutting disc in a grinder. There's a good picture guide on the web if you Google it.
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I fitted the Mud one in mine, it's not a full removal but I still wanted most of the bulkhead left there.

That was pretty simple.
Post #715751 2nd Jul 2018 9:11pm
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Tazman



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Hello All
I am New to the forum but not new to Landrovers.
I am also looking at doing the bulk head removal but not sure which way to go yes I know one way is harder than the other,
the question is how much difference in space do you get in the front between the MUD version against the full bar version?
It looks like in the mud version the seats still hit the bulkhead.
All info much appreciated

Thanks for your help
Very Happy
Post #716764 8th Jul 2018 7:35pm
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