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OleDave

Member Since: 19 Oct 2013
Location: CARDIFF
Posts: 175

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Indus Silver

GEARBOX MOUNTING?

Hi everbody, its been a while since I had to ask you guys for help but yesterday I came across an odd ball, I took the old girl to my local garage to have her yearly oils and filters changed along with a new aux belt.

On arriving at the garage to collect my baby the owner who I know and respect said Dave come and have a view of this odd one Dave, we went down the pit and under the old girl, it was them he pointed out that something was missing between the rear gearox mounting position and the cross member suuport, to me it looked like a rubber bush had been lost as the box was well clear of the support cross member, i have studied the parts on line and I am dammed if I can find any reference to a rubber support bearing in any of the spares list,

My question :- can anybody advise what is missing between the gearbox mounting point and the support cross member and hopefully a name of the item or even its part numer, I cannot understand if it was a bush it must have been screwed into both the gearbox and bolted to the cross member, how it could have come out as it would be trapped but there is absolutely nothing to indicate any bush was ever there or fitted?? really odd.

Can anyone help with advising what is missing?

Regards Ole Dave

19th Feb 2020 9:08am

Martin
Site Admin

Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6605

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Montalcino Red

Nothing missing, it should be fresh air

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69742...sing+mount

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

19th Feb 2020 9:11am

OleDave

Member Since: 19 Oct 2013
Location: CARDIFF
Posts: 175

Hello Martin and thank you so much for your swift reply, there should be nothing there? well in all my years I have never seen the rear of any gearbox unsupported? the odd thing is Martin there is a an internal thread in the gearbox and a hole in the support plate which would indicate that a bush should have or would have been fitted.

I cannot believe there was nothing ever fitted?

Regards

Ole Dave

19th Feb 2020 9:24am

Martin
Site Admin

Member Since: 02 Apr 2007
Location: Hook Norton
Posts: 6605

If you read through the thread I linked to, there's definitely not supposed to be anything there. It appears to be something designed on the crossmember but deleted before production started.

1988 90 Td5 NAS soft top

2015 D90 XS SW

19th Feb 2020 9:37am

DAZ110

Member Since: 06 Dec 2007
Location: East Sussex
Posts: 2039

2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black

I’ve lost track of how many times has this question come up on here.

This is how it’s meant to be, nothing is missing.

19th Feb 2020 9:38am

OleDave

Member Since: 19 Oct 2013
Location: CARDIFF
Posts: 175

Hi Guys, well lol, I believe you all when you advise fresh air, sorry Martin I did not see the thread you put on your posting, Yep thats the area you show on your thread, thats odd and as you all say Rover in hindsight must have decided that it was not required, thank you all so much as it saves me trawling through anymore parts diagrams looking for a part that does not exist!!

Thanks again chaps for your advice and much valed help

Regards

Ole Dave

19th Feb 2020 9:55am

hank

Member Since: 12 Sep 2016
Location: South Wales
Posts: 2300

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey

Have a read through the second page of Martin's linked thread where I suggested trying a mounting in there. Not a good idea by all accounts! > 110 XS Double Cab

19th Feb 2020 10:01am

topless_matt

Member Since: 29 Mar 2015
Location: norfolk
Posts: 68

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Tonga Green

It stems from the prototypes that had different boxes before they settles on the mustang derived one currently in them.
It’s a very strong light rear end so doesn’t need the support. Hold my beer and watch this!

19th Feb 2020 6:18pm

LR90XS2011

Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
Location: bickenhill
Posts: 3641

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green

perhaps you need a new Garage if they are not aware of this perhaps they don't know the quirks of all the Puma transmission oil levels! DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

19th Feb 2020 7:36pm

keef9t

Member Since: 13 Mar 2016
Location: manchester
Posts: 170

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Stornoway Grey

Agreed. The previous owner of my 57 90 used a private garage to service his company vehicles and the LR. When I was changing all the oils soon after purchase I got covered in gearbox oil when I took the filler plug out. There must have been over 3 litres in there. Plus it was leaking. Life is short, so have your pudding first
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2007 90 2.4Tdci County HT Stornaway
Discovery 1 200Tdi Sold
90 Turbo Diesel HT Sold
110 2.5NA CSW Stolen
88 Series II Sold
Meccano Set. Don't know what happened to that

19th Feb 2020 8:10pm

OleDave

Member Since: 19 Oct 2013
Location: CARDIFF
Posts: 175

Hi guys, I use this particular garage for a number of reasons, the first is I know the owner well as I worked with him for a number of years and know he would never rip me off as I am one of the family so to speak, the other reason I use them is the owner worked for Land Rover and was involved with Defenders daily albeit pre Puma, in many ways it was reassuring that they spotted it and reported a potential problem which turned out to be a non problem, I suppose I can blame myself as I personally should have known as I have had the vehicle 8 years.

While in the garage they also spotted at the same time that a brake pipe running over the rear axle was corroded at the points where its clipped to the axle, the old girl is going back in next week for that to be rectified with corrosion resistant brake pipes.

My job when! The weather gets better is to replace the seals on the front axle half shaft areas as I am getting contamination of the axle EP90 oil with the one shot grease from the offside swivel hub, will do both sides though even though it's a diry messy job, thankfully some years ago i modified the single nylock bearing lock nut to the original Rover design of the adjustable 2 nut system while replacing a wrecked c/v joint which makes it's a lot easier to get the whole lot off.

Thank you again chaps for all your help

Ole Dave

20th Feb 2020 8:23am

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