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Def Junkie



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A hard to describe problem
My 2.4 from recently (after the service) has been intermittently stalling mainly when accelerating. It is extremely random and therefore very difficult to simulate. However each time it has happened when I'm accelerating hard (like to overtake). The engine kind of skips a beat and then the accelerator does not respond but it is not a jarring halt and the momentum makes it roll on but the moment it comes to a stop, the ignition lights come on. But it re starts immediately and runs normal until it happens again. Sometimes this happens 2 or3 times a day and some days not even once. I'm completely baffled. I will be taking it in for a check but when I explained this over the phone to the workshop they seemed equally baffled.
If any of you have experienced similar or can at least let me know what to check, that would give the workshop a headstart.
Many tks in advance. Tim
Post #803477 25th Nov 2019 9:20am
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Marks Landy



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Cheap fuel filter or air getting into the fuel system?
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Stacey007



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Do the dashboard lights go out when the engine cuts out (all dials zero?)


I had this, random cut out, no funny engine / juddering etc just cut out for a split second.


Fix was a new steering ignition barrel.


No fault logged as it was possible before it got to that...


Has worked fine since
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BenB8man



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I believe this could also be an issue with relay connections under the seat. A mate had this on a TDCI everytime he turned a sharp corner and I'm sure he said pinching up the socket connections solved it.
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Def Junkie



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Stacey007 wrote:
Do the dashboard lights go out when the engine cuts out (all dials zero?)


I had this, random cut out, no funny engine / juddering etc just cut out for a split second.


Fix was a new steering ignition barrel.


No fault logged as it was possible before it got to that...


Has worked fine since


The dashboard lights stay on and even the dials don't go to zero. However when the vehicle comes to a standstill then the ignition lights (the pre start mode red lights) come on. And she comes to life immediately when i re start the engine.
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Def Junkie



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Marks Landy wrote:
Cheap fuel filter or air getting into the fuel system?


The fuel filter is original Land Rover. Will need to check if air gets in.
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geostrategist



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I’m having a similar issue, but dropping through idle to stall instead.

I’ll watch with interest how yours develops!


https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic69868.html
Post #803925 28th Nov 2019 10:17am
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Marks Landy



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Have you found any water in the fuel ?
Post #803929 28th Nov 2019 10:34am
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foggydave



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Could this be the VCV valve?
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blackwolf



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^^^ Very possibly, classic VCV symptoms.
Post #804475 2nd Dec 2019 5:59pm
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Defender13



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maybe some of these fuel delivery issues
Have a look at this, maybe it will help to assess the situation. As you have the 2.4 Puma, you do not have the diesel delivery pump insode of the fuel tank but directly on your common rail delivery pump:



Hopefully it helps.
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Def Junkie



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So it finally turned out that my problem was caused by a faulty common Rail pump which was replaced and I have had no further instances of the engine cutting out on me.
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discomog



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Thanks Def Junkie, it's always good to know the causes of these spurious problems Defender 90XS SW
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windy81



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ouch !
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Marks Landy



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Tricky to replace??
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