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abb

Member Since: 05 Oct 2019
Location: Surrey
Posts: 3

Landrover Defender - No drive

Hi guys,

I put the car into gear but there is no drive. I have engaged diff lock - and still no drive.

Backgroung:
Whilst driving at 60-70mph, i heard a loud bang - i stopped to look but didnt find anything. I drove back on 30mph - which seemed ok.
Once at home, i engage rear gear and heard loud clunking- I jacked the car up and wanted to check where the problem is coming from, but after a try now there is no drive at all.

I can manually put the lever into gear position - but when i let go of the clutch i dont feel the gear engage. The clutch pedal feels the same to the press as before.

I would appreciate any pointers on what it might be. Can i do the work myself or will i require to lift the car up

Vehicle: Landrover Defender 130 2.2 - 2012 - 50,000miles - Full service recently completed

Many thanks in advance
A

29th Jan 2020 11:41pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20580

Have you tried going in high and low range? It's possible it can be knocked into neutral there.It may be worth checking drive flanges too but unfortunately it sounds like it might be the Splined Intermediate shaft in the gearbox I think it's called.
(Anyone please feel free to mention the correct name if I'm wrong.)
The splines wear, due to not being factory lubricated, then they wear they can just let go leaving you with no drive at all to all wheels.

Out of interest what mileage are you currently on? KEEP CALM AND Drill ON
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30th Jan 2020 12:06am

abb

Member Since: 05 Oct 2019
Location: Surrey
Posts: 3

The car has currently done around 50k miles - but the car had been standing still for a year almost
I changed the rear halfshafts and drive flages last month (to remove the clunking noise) and all oils/ filters including transmission and transferbox.

Would i be able to change the splined intermediate shaft myself? or will it require a lift, and other specialist workshop tools?

how much would it cost (ball part) from a workshop, any idea?

30th Jan 2020 12:10am

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20580

Transfer box would need to come out I believe.

Unless you are very competent at spannering and have access to a lift I'd leave it to a reliable experienced garage.
(I would if it was me as the parts are very heavy).

I'm pretty sure the intermediate shaft is about £280 possibly a bit more for the parts exc labour.
But varies depending on what has gone wrong when they investigate.

I am no expert, many members on here are very knowledgable and have probably had the job done so can advise better.
I believe if it is that, that there are two options Genuine or Ashcroft to choose from.
What you have described does sound like the symptom a sudden loss of drive. KEEP CALM AND Drill ON
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30th Jan 2020 12:31am

LR90XS2011

Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
Location: bickenhill
Posts: 3650

2011 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Galway Green

put it in diff lock and see if it moves, if it dosnt move then intermediate shaft is most likely cause, if it does move put it out of diff lock and ask someone to look underneath when stationary and chocked, put in gear and slowly release the clutch, if 1 of the prop shafts are turning and the car isnt moving then its a diff or drive flange/cv joint at the end that has the turning shaft DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

30th Jan 2020 6:37am

abb

Member Since: 05 Oct 2019
Location: Surrey
Posts: 3

There is still no drive in diff lock - before this happened, the car made a grinding noise somewhere in the shafts. It might be unrelated - as i suspect the front UJ might need to be replaced.

Is changing the intermediate shaft something that can be done at home - car only raised on jack stands?

30th Jan 2020 6:27pm

LR90XS2011

Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
Location: bickenhill
Posts: 3650

wont be uj broken, uj will result in the shaft detaching and being fairly obvious and will still drive in diff lock

there are some threads on here regards changing the shaft, it is a DIY job for a competent person but there are a few tools/workrounds required

suggest a search on here there was a procedure explained step by step from one of the land rover magazines DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

30th Jan 2020 6:33pm

LR90XS2011

Member Since: 05 Apr 2011
Location: bickenhill
Posts: 3650

https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59735...iate+shaft DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS,

I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy

30th Jan 2020 6:41pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8152

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

Diff lock light is on with no drive?

Its def in a gear? You can hear gbox rotating?

If so sounds like time to take t box off and check the intermediate shaft. If that's ok, check clutch.

I did mine on floor of my garage, no lift. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

31st Jan 2020 10:34pm

Shorty53

Member Since: 17 May 2013
Location: Lancashire
Posts: 135

2012 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

Sound like another scandalous output shaft failure. Many on this forum. Mine was a £900+ main dealer repair. Fortunately covered under warranty.

1st Feb 2020 8:38pm

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