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| Muddybigdog Member Since: 11 Apr 2014 Location: Suffolk Posts: 1016   
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https://www.theguardian.com/money/2020/nov...ng-network Jumped ship to reliability - Mitsubishi L200
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28th Nov 2020 11:54am |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2141 
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not to mention the inherent damage to the environment and simple unsustainability (is that even a word??) the whole EV set-up..........
we need change but this does not appear to be the 'messiah' |
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28th Nov 2020 12:42pm |
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| seriesonenut Member Since: 19 Nov 2014 Location: Essex Posts: 1210
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Simple, get a trailer and say a 10kw generator with a short extension lead...........
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28th Nov 2020 1:18pm |
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| shropshiredefender Member Since: 05 Jun 2017 Location: Shropshire Posts: 834  
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Rather like some years ago the government/motor industry decided to promote Diesel over Petrol as the "ecological" (more mpg) way forward, and then increased the tax on Diesel, thus increasing costs to the haulage industry (ultimately everything is delivered by truck), they want to con us into electric cars.
I was interested that the head of Vauxhall U.K. stated that the purchase price of EV's was high but the overall cost of ownership including fuel costs was the same as the fossil fuel equivalent. This was based on 70% of vehicles being run on PCP or PCH agreements. So no real saving for EV drivers and no ownership after 3 or 5 years. Given range anxiety (very real watching the range of an EV drop rapidly whilst going uphill or even using the heater), the overall life and replacement cost of batteries (not to mention the ecological impact), lack of recharging infrastructure and high purchase price - EV's are not the way forward for me. Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right. |
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28th Nov 2020 1:21pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4205 
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In all seriousness, the Australian authorities have been thinking about installing diesel charging powered points on the big distance routes between cities. Now that’s not as mad as it sounds at first. The idea being that it will encourage earlier uptake for those who make those occasional long trips and improve air quality in the cites while the rural charging infrastructure catches up 2007 110 TDCi Station Wagon XS |
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28th Nov 2020 1:34pm |
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| Joe the Plumber Member Since: 18 Dec 2013 Location: Midlands Posts: 907 
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Someone made the point recently that if you go in your electric car to stay with someone a long way away, you'll need to charge it up again to get home afterwards.
Do you pay your host for the electricity you'll use to do this? It could lead to some rather awkward moments. But one big argument against electric cars must be that, because of the prohibitive cost of new batteries (and fitting them), they will have almost no value second hand once they're a few years old. Who would buy a second hand one, and which dealers would consider taking one in part exchange, knowing a high four figure bill is likely at any time? I know the cost of batteries is likely to come down in time, but it's still a major issue that Boris doesn't seem to have included in his plans. |
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28th Nov 2020 3:16pm |
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| Bluest Member Since: 23 Apr 2016 Location: Lancashire Posts: 4205
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The batteries do seem to have a long life, longer than people were predicitng, but there will come a point where they aren't serviceable. I am certain this will not trouble the manufacturers one bit who will be more than happy to sell you a whole new vehicle
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28th Nov 2020 5:00pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2622 
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There was an article written before the first lockdown where the writer borrowed a Jag EV to drive from London to somewhere in Cornwall.
In a nutshell it took two days to get there, whereas from home here in Surrey to mid Cornwall its five hours including the coffee and sandwich stop, no fuel. The question is if you are looking to go away for the week, do you want to spend four days of that driving.....? Funnily enough i noticed yesterday that Cobham carpark has removed the two charging spaces it had...no notices to say why. The other thing to note is the state of the roads around my neck of the woods, those light weight tyres i am sure will suffer a lot of wear and damage, i have already seen one Tesla roll the tread of a rear tyre on the A3. And lets not even mention all those new housing estates with community single house parking only and no spaces to park near your front door . I cant see how the country will ever be ready especially as the UK is in a financial dire straits..... |
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28th Nov 2020 5:00pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17346 
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Next time I drive a long way to visit friends I'll suggest they pay to fill my tank with diesel before I go, and see how well received that suggestion is!  |
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28th Nov 2020 5:41pm |
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| Badger110 Member Since: 06 Feb 2018 Location: South hams Posts: 1039 
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After you've eaten all the food and drunk the drinks cabinet dry i'm sure they'll more than happy to pay for your fuel
The infrastructure for electric cars just isn't there and it'll be a fair while before it even begins to accomodate an all electric scenario. |
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28th Nov 2020 5:56pm |
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