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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816   
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My daughter’s Flyer. 350W Bosch Performance Line motor.
 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge And here is mine being recovered at our house and taken to my bike store in Geneva centre because I had a flat tire. This free service is part of our TCS (Touring Club Suisse) membership. Click image to enlarge And mine another time being recovered (different tow truck) for a similar flat tire.... 
Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw Last edited by ericvv on 15th Aug 2019 12:26pm. Edited 4 times in total |
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15th Aug 2019 12:07pm |
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| shropshiredefender Member Since: 05 Jun 2017 Location: Shropshire Posts: 834  
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Stop playing with electrickery and go internal combustion
Ideal for a VW  Just because you're offended doesn't mean you're right. |
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15th Aug 2019 12:11pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308 
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/\ that looks like new too - clearly in the genes
I was having a quick look at vid on internet and an ex XC champ on his bike was beaten by some lump on a 7min course by circa 30 sec. clearly they have some benefits. it would also suggest these e bikes above are circa 20+ kg. my new bike at 10kg is heavier than I'd like. but everyone to their own. 
mr ericv - might be part of the service but that doesn't make environmental sense......but then I guess putting a motor on a bike doesn't do the planet any favours either......or are we going to start the beef burger argument ie if I were on an electric bike I'd produce less methane |
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15th Aug 2019 12:14pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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Caterham, let’s simply say that I don’t suffer from the “Greta Thunberg” syndrome.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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15th Aug 2019 12:28pm |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308
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if she's anything like one of the girls at my daughters school who thinks she a Greta - then I'd say she's a hypotric, not only does she live many miles from the school she also sees fit to get a lift to school by car - not public transport.
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15th Aug 2019 12:53pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4797  
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Ericv wow that’s impressive service
2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90 2000 XS TD5 90 |
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15th Aug 2019 1:01pm |
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| Projectblue Member Since: 22 Nov 2011 Location: Devon Posts: 1096
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Wow, thanks for the informative and wealth of information.
Much appreciated. I have access to a scheme at work for buying one, so it comes out at source and before tax & N.I  New project and it's green: www.projectoverland.info |
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15th Aug 2019 7:45pm |
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| Scotm Member Since: 28 Feb 2014 Location: Aberdeenshire Posts: 667  
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Eric - am I missing something with these electric bikes? I assumed you could just wip a wheel and tyre off and fit a new tube or patch if you have a flat?
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15th Aug 2019 7:47pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2645 
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Hi Scotm
Yes, its a bike and so yes just change the inner tube or patch the original as you would normally. Many of the branded mountain bike versions come supplied with tubless ready wheels and tyres. Take out the tube, insert a tubless valve add sealant and off you go. I always carry a spare tube and repair kit because you never know. My record in my Norco Sight Carbon with Maxxis High Roller tyres was three punctures in the rear tyre. I did not even notice until i got home and was cleaning the bike. So as with driving a Defender, be prepared and self sufficient. |
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15th Aug 2019 9:19pm |
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| ericvv Member Since: 02 Jun 2011 Location: Near the Jet d'Eau Posts: 5816
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You can, but don’t need to. Bicycle (any type, electric or not) roadside assistance and recovery now comes standard with our subscription to the Swiss TCS (your RAC). Including bikes is a brand new feature of our TCS membership, must admit the pictures I posted are several years old now, but then the same service was a cheap option you could tick when buying a new Flyer. It’s not only covering a flat, but all mechanical breakdowns of a bike, including bringing you back home in case the bike can not be repaired on the spot but has to be recovered. I guess in all three cases where I called them for a flat, the assistance they sent did not have a tire repair set available either, so it went on the recovery truck.
Eric You never actually own a Defender. You merely look after it for the next generation. http://youtu.be/yVRlSsJwD0o https://youtu.be/vmPr3oTHndg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GtzTT9Pdl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABqKPz28e6A https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLZ49Jce_n0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvAsz_ilQYU https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K8tMHiX9lSw https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dxwjPuHIV7I https://vimeo.com/201482507 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSixqL0iyHw |
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16th Aug 2019 1:38am |
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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2645 
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honestly, if i hadn't spent what i had on my current bike 'd have one too....
I work offshore for half the year so struggle to maintain some fitness.... once you've ridden one you wont want a normal bike again, i have lots of experience with the top level merida ~8k worth and its utterly amazing. big updates coming for them next year... |
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16th Aug 2019 2:52am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5858  
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I hate ebikes. Old people keep passing me on the local hills making my efforts look bad
Joking aside, there's been a real explosion of ebikes out here. All types. Mates who are proper MTB nuts, know their stuff, spend thousands a year on the sport, have ridden them and said they're amazing. Heavy, but apart from picking it up to load on the back of the car it doesn't matter as the motor does all the work. However, it is very much a case of getting what you pay for. But as another poster said, by the previous year's model and see as much as 50% Off. If you do go down this route, bare in mind that ebikes are evolving faster than any segment of the bike industry so in just a year there can be a real leap in tech. So if you look at last year's stuff, make sure it is a model in first year of production, Not last, so you can be sure it's as up to date as today's bar the paint scheme. And don't forget they do road bikes too. Here's my fave. https://www.cyclingweekly.com/reviews/e-bikes/wilier-cento1hy Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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16th Aug 2019 6:52am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5858
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Oh, and to put into context the benefits of the motor, most churn out about 250w, which give or take is the same wattage a Tour de France pro 'averages' during a normal stage. That's quite a step up, albeit not quite the level of rider like Greipel who hit almost 2000w during the sprint.
 Monsieur Le Grenadier
I've not been everywhere, but it's on my list..... 2011 Puma 110DC - Corris Grey |
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16th Aug 2019 6:58am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308
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thanks for the response markb110.
I'm just thinking about lifting 25kg over my head while going over a stile for example. or when we rode the coast to coast (off road) and had to carry our bikes up black sale pass. would rather stick with 10kg than 25kg
horses for courses and all that tho. |
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16th Aug 2019 8:31am |
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