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| GREENI Member Since: 22 Aug 2010 Location: staffs Posts: 10382  
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Buzzweld seems to be the buzz-word and is the answer to all 'paint' questions on any Land Rover media stream.
I used their 'galv in one' rattle can.... sure enough, after one month it was back to galv.... not sure if that's what they meant. Not at all impressed. I'm sure there'll be plenty of people to champion their products and have had good results. |
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24th Jun 2019 2:13pm |
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| Doc P Member Since: 03 Apr 2016 Location: Midlands Posts: 565 
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https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic52858.html
I was going to do this this year (and the chassis). What's do those who've used Buzzweld CIO think of it? |
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24th Jun 2019 2:13pm |
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| boxoftricks Member Since: 06 Feb 2019 Location: Home Counties Posts: 747 
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It's the classic situation of being all about the quality of the prep work. Paint anything over rust and it will come through in no time, even the specialist stop rust/paint directly onto rust.
Take the cross member as back as far as you can, ideally bare shiny metal and degrease it. I use the wipes you buy in a tub from the DIY shops. Then most ctitically on the bright shiny metal use a rust killer. For years I've used POR 15 Metal Prep. https://www.por15.com/POR-15-Metal-Prep I give everything a couple of treatments allowing over night drying time. I don't wash it off after application. If I brush paint a chassis I'll then use POR 15 rust prevention paint in the little tins. If it has access to sunlight like your rear member you have to give it a top coat. When I do my rear cross member this summer (I'd never paint this time of year as far too much moisture in the air) I'll spray over the rust killer with red oxide primer spray paint. A couple of coats to build it up. Depending on finish may then use an undercoat on top of it. I'll then do a couple of coats of Halfords black matt spray paint. Then over the top a couple of coats of Halfords clear coat sprayed on as a more durable finish. The matt spraypaint plus clear coat gives a nice satin finish. |
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24th Jun 2019 2:44pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3676 
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Any thoughts on how many rattle cans is enough?
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25th Jun 2019 10:32am |
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| boxoftricks Member Since: 06 Feb 2019 Location: Home Counties Posts: 747
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One 500ml can of each will be enough for 2 or 3 coats I think.
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25th Jun 2019 10:42am |
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| Marks Landy Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Cheshire Posts: 299 
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I did my rear cross member last summer with Buzzweld CIO, not impressed.
After 6 or 7 months it started looking a bit scabby.. Will try POR15 once it stops raining |
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25th Jun 2019 11:18am |
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| Devon-Rover Member Since: 22 Jan 2015 Location: South Devon Posts: 916 
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It's all about the prep, The dream sold buy B%*"$£&D is that of simple long term easy to do product. and IMHO it isn't the case. Always said it always will.
It is the case of rubbing down, Degrease, Priming, and a few light tops coats as adversed to one heavier one. Well all have our favourite products but in the end the result should be A1. The problem with the crossmember is the top where it joins the body there is the bracket across the top under the door and the seam there is gonna harbor the rust so after time it'll blow through so once painted it'll be good to get something in there to stop it spreading (i use ACF 50 to hope it seeps in and so far so good.) On the whole good products and time spent on the prep will help. Cheap spray cans have not enough 'gas' inside as a propellant so I wouldn't bother. (I refurbed a set of radius arms for a friend to use on a cheap offroad truck and used Simoniz stuff and the nozzles were crap and the paint not a lot better.) Yet the POR 15 aerosol there is lots of propellant and the nozzle is nice and gives a good even spray. Not to mention it is a really quality paint Also can be found on Fb, Ytube, Insta & Twitter @4WDSouthwest |
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25th Jun 2019 12:08pm |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7906 
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I've used Buzzweld RCP under Raptor on a trailer and CIO as a secondary top coat on my bumper. Two years later both still look good as new. James
MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers |
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25th Jun 2019 8:38pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3676
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Last question! What’s the best tool for taking it back to bare metal? Random orbit sander, grinder and flap disk, or belt sander (bit too aggressive?).
Also, is it recommended to clear coat on top? Thanks Col |
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26th Jun 2019 8:30am |
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| macandy13 Member Since: 25 Dec 2016 Location: Fife Posts: 24  
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Would definitely use a grinder with a flap disc. Just be careful when you get to the edges of the bodywork. Use something more easily controlled or just sand paper for the hard to reach corners. Also remove your rear mud flap brackets to do the underside of the crossmember. Buzzword sells a kit for doing the rear crossmember which utilises Rust Encapsulate and 2K FXLiner. Mask off the bodywork as best you can with newspaper. Use plenty of masking tape and make sure to leave a small flap on the tape to tuck under the open sections of bodywork. I found it easier to remove the spare wheel off the door.
Mask up as best you can. Go over it with the grinder and flap disc. Sandpaper for corners. Wipe down with a degreaser and let it dry. 2 coats of RE and then 2 coats of FXLiner. Just make sure you aren't to close when spraying or you will get runs. Would upload some pictures for you but they are on another gadget unfortunately. |
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29th Jun 2019 7:08pm |
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| macandy13 Member Since: 25 Dec 2016 Location: Fife Posts: 24
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http://www.buzzweld.co.uk/fxliner-2k-rock-...r-kit.html
Link to the kit Buzzweld offer. |
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29th Jun 2019 7:13pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3676
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Cheers Andy. Did pretty much that today, except I found the flap disc a bit harsh so went for the random orbit sander. Not bad for a first attempt.
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29th Jun 2019 7:44pm |
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| macandy13 Member Since: 25 Dec 2016 Location: Fife Posts: 24
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Good to hear, done mine last year and still looks good. Hope you have the same luck.
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29th Jun 2019 8:12pm |
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| Co1 Member Since: 19 Aug 2018 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 3676
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29th Jun 2019 8:53pm |
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