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| bear100 Member Since: 22 Mar 2010 Location: South Wales Posts: 1927   
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Funny enough i was going to ask the very same question!
I always used winns on my 300 TDI, watching this thread  2023 Defender L663 V8
2016 Range Rover Autobiography 4.4 TDV8 (gone) 2010 110 XS Utility 2.4TDCI 2010 Range Rover Sport TDV8 (gone) 2007 Discovery HSE TDV6 (gone) 1993 110 csw 200 tdi (gone) 1994 90 HT 300 tdi (gone) 1994 discovery 300tdi (gone) 90 hybrid 3.5 v8 (gone) Range rover bobtail 3.5 v8 (gone) |
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29th Jun 2019 7:10am |
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| landy andy Member Since: 15 Feb 2009 Location: Ware, Herts Posts: 5752 
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I would never ever use a flushing oil. It just stirs all the crap up and the circulates it.
If you want clear oil, change it more frequently, but to keep it clear, I would think that would be about every thousand miles. It’s just what oil does. I do drop my oil when it very hot though, so thin as possible. |
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29th Jun 2019 7:26am |
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| alexatnd Member Since: 19 May 2015 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 281 
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Isn;t that the point of a flushing oil, stirr up the crap and then flush it out hence less crap in the engine?
given the 22K a yesr I do in our TD5, perhapes changing oil evey 1K might not be a good idea .....  Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb
Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County |
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29th Jun 2019 11:50am |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5111 
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If you are going to use an engine flush (which to be fair you needn't if you regularly change the oil) then it makes sense to use the best flush on the market which in my opinion is Forte.
Forte is a name that is synonymous with the very best in effective engine treatments. their products are used on a regular basis by over 9,000 garages in the UK. Forte has over 40 years worth of experience in the UK helping and advising garages on how to make a noticeable difference to a car’s performance. Though it states Forte products are for trade only use and not for retail sale. They are available to buy from several retails outlets as well as Amazon and eBay. https://www.forteuk.co.uk/products For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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29th Jun 2019 1:03pm |
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| gilarion Member Since: 05 Dec 2013 Location: Wales Posts: 5111
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Engine darkens in colour due to the immense heat inside the engine block. However, if you notice when draining that your oil is really black then this could indicate the presence of soot in the oil and this would need to be investigated as it is usually an indication of incomplete combustion of the diesel fuel. For those who like Welsh Mountains and narrow boats have a look at my videos and photos at.. http://www.youtube.com/user/conwy1 |
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29th Jun 2019 1:16pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4799 
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The garage who did my stage remap this week stock and sell forte products and they spoke highly of them
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29th Jun 2019 3:31pm |
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| Retroanaconda Member Since: 04 Jan 2012 Location: Scotland Posts: 2667 
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All you need to do is use the correct grade of oil, changed at the correct frequency as per the manual. Anything else is a waste of time and money, including engine ‘flush’ products.
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29th Jun 2019 3:37pm |
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| bankz5152 Member Since: 02 Feb 2017 Location: South London/North Kent Posts: 2187 
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Just change the oil.
I change mine every 6k Imo these "additives" just cost you more money for minimal, if any benifit. Instagram @defender_ventures Empire Tuning - Agent |
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29th Jun 2019 4:44pm |
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| 4RF RDS Member Since: 19 Jul 2015 Location: Ottawa Posts: 945  
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I’m with everyone else on this... just change it regularly and NOT what LR recommends. Do it sooner. Mine is always black when I drive about 1000kms after an oil change 👍 2010 Range Rover MkIII Autobiography Super Charged (Idris)
2003 Range Rover Mk III (Desmond FitzWilliam) 2000 Defender 110 CSW TD5 (CTX) 1992 Range Rover Classic (Lizzy) 1972 Series III 300 Tdi (Stanwood) 1967 MGB GT Every normal man must be tempted at times to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin to slit throats. H. L. Mencken (1880 - 1956) |
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29th Jun 2019 6:29pm |
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| roel Member Since: 08 Aug 2009 Location: Lelystad Posts: 2039  
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I change at the normal interval, but change both filters at the same time. Use quality oil. and yes after about 15 minutes running you see already the first black coming in the oil. How good you drain, you never change all the oil so a bit off black oil will very soon be mixed with the clean oil and it will start to change color.
The only answer for this is a petrol engine. The oil of my Disco 3 V8 was so clean after 24000 km that after I put it back in the bottle were the new oil came out I hardly could see the difference. Roel 1984 90 2.5 na Diesel - RR V8 (1994-2001) 1997 Camel Trophy Discovery 300TDI (2001-2009) 2005 G4 Discovery III 4.4 V8 (2008-2018) It's gone but it still hurts. 2003 90 Td5 (2009-now) |
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29th Jun 2019 9:20pm |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1768 
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I'm in the camp of just change it regularly. Especially with the price of td5 oil, I think I only paid £25 for a 10l drum last time I bought some
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29th Jun 2019 10:45pm |
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| LR90XS2011 Member Since: 05 Apr 2011 Location: bickenhill Posts: 3648 
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modern oils have a lot of detergent in them, they go black as they are designed to clean the engine , dirty oil = clean engine.
just change at the recommended frequency or sooner if your vehicle is used hard or infrequently. the days of heavily sludged up engines are a thing of the past if good quality oils are used DEFENDER 90 TDCI XS, I hope everyone is well and your land rovers make you happy |
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30th Jun 2019 5:41am |
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| alexatnd Member Since: 19 May 2015 Location: Yorkshire Posts: 281
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Many thanks for all the replies, I do actiually try and change the oil every 6K with both filters. Sometime it sneaks up to 7K though. Also use Winns at each change.
Jut wondered about the flushing oil, last ued it in the 1970's Thx Again A Santa - 1977 Series 3 - new chassis, tub, disc brakes,SU Carb Gertie - 1999 110 TD5 - like a Phoenix from the ashes back on road... almost Effie - 2004 110 TD5 County |
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30th Jun 2019 8:23am |
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