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Ads90

Member Since: 16 Jun 2008
Location: Cots-on-the-Wolds
Posts: 812

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 CSW Keswick Green

You definitely want it slightly nose-down when unloaded, as any load compresses the rears more than the fronts.

27th Jun 2019 2:54pm

Fred95

Member Since: 23 Oct 2011
Location: Gruenwald
Posts: 9

Agree. This is definitely, what I would expect from a spring, which is called „standard height“.

Unfortunately Alive does not comment on this fact, when I asked them.

Neither me, nor my workshop can invest in time and money to rectify a problem for the vendor.

So I decided, to remove them and send them back.

27th Jun 2019 7:45pm

Co1

Member Since: 19 Aug 2018
Location: North Yorkshire
Posts: 3677

Fred95 wrote:
Thank you all for your valuable feedback.

@co1:
No, the old springs were not sagging. I did just 50k miles in 10 years
Yes, I got ARBs.
And your springs look pretty similar to mine, when jacked up. Slightly odd.

Question to you: (a) is your Defender at the same level than mine? and (b) more important: how does it drive? Any problems with the propshaft making noise due to the front lift?

@naks:
The 110 springs won't fit at 90, since they have a larger diameter (rear) and look different. And standard height springs from Eibach are only available for a 90 anyway.

I forwarded Alive the part numbers printed on the springs and pictures of the installation, and they confirmed (a) these are the right ones and (b) correctly fitted.

So, I would rule out the possibility, that they sent the wrong ones.

@roy5695:

Arch gaps were equal before that and they are not equal now. This means that the front have been raised and/or the rear lowered and/or both. And this is something, I don't like, because it influences the underbody geometry.

Fred.

Hi there. Mine had done 60k. It looks pretty level with the springs fitted and drive superb, much better than before. Not a great pic, but the only one I have:

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27th Jun 2019 7:55pm

agner

Member Since: 28 Jul 2014
Location: jakarta
Posts: 3

2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Indus Silver

Hi, i have just installed fox shocks and alive comfort standard height + ARB.
the rear seems to be lowered from stock around 2 cm. also the front spring is longer than the stock springs.
satisfied with the improvement but dont expect much its still a defender.
also i wanted to try to raise the rear by installing anr2938 spring isolator on the rear spring (2 pcs top and bottom) to bring the rear height back to normal.

stock front

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stock rear

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front eibach standard height

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rear eibach standard height

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normal suspension

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alive tuning fox suspension kit

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9th Mar 2021 5:34pm

nitram17

Member Since: 08 Jun 2014
Location: newcastle
Posts: 2261

Just to resurect this thread does anybody have the measurements of the alive standard height comfort springs as ive had mine laying in a box for a while and i dont want to go to the expense of getting them fitted if they are to long?Thanks in advance.

9th Mar 2021 5:55pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

The post immediately above yours has comparative measurements in. Darren

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10th Mar 2021 8:38am

nitram17

Member Since: 08 Jun 2014
Location: newcastle
Posts: 2261

Thanks but I was hoping somebody might be just about to fit alive springs
And. Would measure the height prior to putting them on their truck do do I could check mine before paying someone to fit them.

10th Mar 2021 1:46pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

So you want to check that your springs match somebody else's of the same spec.? Do you think there's something wrong with them? Darren

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10th Mar 2021 2:34pm

nitram17

Member Since: 08 Jun 2014
Location: newcastle
Posts: 2261

The original post was about the size difference with the alive springs and the original ones.......my alive springs are in a box and by eyeballing them they don't look like the op picture so I was hoping somebody has just received a set of alive springs so they can measure them and see if they match my set...there are s few posts on here describing how alive have sent the wrong or faulty springs so I was posting a long shot to confirm sizes of the alive springs that might in the in the long run save me a few quid in fitting costs ...

10th Mar 2021 3:29pm

LandRoverAnorak

Member Since: 17 Jul 2011
Location: Surrey
Posts: 11324

Ahh, I'm with you now. Darren

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10th Mar 2021 4:15pm

ChrisCSL

Member Since: 10 Aug 2019
Location: Berks
Posts: 186

2014 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Santorini Black

I would have thought that the springs should be changed with uprated dampers at the same time.

10th Mar 2021 4:29pm

agner

Member Since: 28 Jul 2014
Location: jakarta
Posts: 3

rear stock vs standard height

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front stock vs standard height

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they have code written in the spring i suggest to contact alive tuning to check

10th Mar 2021 6:29pm

nitram17

Member Since: 08 Jun 2014
Location: newcastle
Posts: 2261

10th Mar 2021 6:39pm

Benrlelliott

Member Since: 29 Dec 2020
Location: London
Posts: 25

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Aintree Green

I'm having the same effect with all new fox shocks, isolators and genuine springs. Old hardware was shot (100k miles) and replaced, hence considering how much the old rake / stance was a function of old equipment vs. is there anything to be concerned about here...?

There was considerable lift after install (sorry no measurements), far above the extra of the isolators, which leads me further to believe it's a result of new vs old.

30th Jul 2021 6:40am

johnnyha

Member Since: 08 May 2019
Location: London
Posts: 40

1996 Defender 90 300 Tdi CSW Epsom Green

FWIW I've recently fitted the -1" comfort springs with Bilstein shocks. No issues and rides well. The comms from Alive were excellent.

Photos to follow

31st Jul 2021 7:25am

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