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AndrewS



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 130 Puma 2.2 SW Rimini Red
Wheelbase new compared to old
Just had a look at the new Defender wheelbase compared to old spec.

Old 90 = 2306
New 90 = 2587
= 281mm or 11.063" longer

Old 110 = 2794
New 110 = 3022
= 228mm or 8.976" longer

Old 130 = 3225
New 130 = 3022
= 203mm or 7.992" shorter

So the new 90 is longer that the old 110 or have I royally Censored my calcs up. 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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Sulisuli



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
New defender 90 is 2587, old 110 is 2794........

2794 minus 2587 equals 207 therefore the new 90 is shorter than the old 110 unless I have royally got my maths wrong Rolling with laughter 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90
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DSC-off



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
To keep it simple, wheelbases to the nearest inch,
Old 90, 93"
New 90, 102"

Old 110, 110"
New 110, 119"

Old 130, was 127"
New 130, is really just a new 110 with a bigger overhang, also 119"

To me this model naming is only trying to cash in on the reputation of the old model, just as reusing the Defender name does.
They have no relation to the wheelbase, it's stupid to use these names now they no longer have a meaning.
The biggest tragedy is the '130', naming a 8 seat people carrier after a model that was only ever a double cab pickup or a chassis cab commercial is stretching it beyond any credible connection.

100 and 120 would have been far more appropriate names.
Discovery 100 and Discovery 120 would be more realistic.


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AndrewS



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Thud Dam that Thatchers haze. Rolling with laughter 130's have feeling's as well you know Smile
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Sulisuli



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 HT Corris Grey
Had that haze a few times myself AndrewS Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
2000 XS TD5 90
Post #780424 6th Jul 2019 9:07pm
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Ramsay



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Scotland 1995 Defender 110 300 Tdi CSW Auto Keswick Green
It is going to be royally confusing for buying stuff for it. Oh yes, sir wants tyres for a Defender 110 is that 18” or 20” wheels? 1995 Defender 110 CSW
1971 SIIA Lightweight
Post #780503 7th Jul 2019 2:19pm
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DSC-off



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Aintree Green
Imagine the arguments at the trialling clubs:
A new 90 may be eligible to take a shunt on a trial section because the wheelbase is over 100"
Whereas the old 90 isn't, even though it will have a bigger turning circle!

Then there's the permit system for Gatesgarth Pass in the Lake District.
All new defenders will be banned from driving the road because they're >100"
Karma. Cool Laughing Thumbs Up
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miker



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red
DSC-off wrote:
100 and 120 would have been far more appropriate names.


Agreed! I was baffled by why they've called something with a 100" wheelbase a 90.

Defender 100"
Defender 120"
Defender 120" L

Would work IMO
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AMBxx



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Orkney Grey
Gone metric?!
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
miker wrote:
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Agreed! I was baffled by why they've called something with a 100" wheelbase a 90.

Defender 100"
Defender 120"
Defender 120" L

Would work IMO


And I'm a little baffled why they've called something which clearly the spiritual successor to the Discovery a Defender!



(Actually I am not, it was probably inevitable, and it now makes the other name changes and the dropping of the Freelander brand understandable).
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