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Co1



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Post #789238 28th Aug 2019 8:11pm
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custom90



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Out of interest, is the exhaust dia 3" thoughout it's entire length?
It mentions on the alive one that the tailpipe is 3" the rest of the system is 2 1/2" dia.
It looks like the Twisted version isn't just CAT back but including CAT.
Is this a sports CAT? I had a look at their listing and it didn't mention that that I noticed, and I did notice there is a single or dual silencer option.
The Alive one seems more polished an is a single silencer CAT back.

I recon the CAT would be a pain to fit with the fixings.

I'm currently running a factory system with straight though centre, but as others have mentioned before.
The TF centre straight through section is a poor fit.

I'm swayed more by the Alive version, but as Simon said also I'm open to both.
Not on the horizon for me until a while off due to cost but very interested. Mr. Green ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
Post #789243 28th Aug 2019 8:23pm
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Twisted 2.2 is cat back only.
Their 2.4 and Td5 versions are full exhaust systems with no cat and choice of 1 or 2 silencers.
All 2.5" with 3" finisher.

Allisport definitely worth a look. Or Griffin if the budget won't stretch that far.
Post #789244 28th Aug 2019 8:34pm
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Hmmm, I don't think I'd want to go without the CAT.

Thank you for the info though. Thumbs Up ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
Post #789255 28th Aug 2019 9:07pm
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Co1



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What Zed said. It’s DPF back, so original DPF then 2.5” all the way through with a 3” tailpipe. At anything up to 3000rpm it is no louder at all inside or outside. It gets a bit throaty after this but let’s be honest, once the foot is buried that hard you’re not worried about the noise! Does make me wonder why on earth LR wasted money on the 2 original silencers? I was tempted to cut one open to see if there was actually anything in it but gave it away instead.
Post #789279 29th Aug 2019 5:17am
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Co1



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Filled up for the second time this morning since changing the exhaust and I’m actually getting better fuel economy with it! This is despite opening up the throttle more regularly to listen to the roar!
Post #789293 29th Aug 2019 7:36am
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That’s probably because it can breathe easier, with less output flow restriction. I expect the factory silencer has some kind of baffle in it.
This obviously causes a slow down of escape gasses thus a restriction.

Have you done the air box mod too? ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
Post #789303 29th Aug 2019 8:09am
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Co1



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Yes, did the air box mod about 6 months ago but still got the RAI to take off to open things right up.
Post #789314 29th Aug 2019 9:21am
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hank



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Post #789317 29th Aug 2019 9:43am
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Zed



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Co1 wrote:
Filled up for the second time this morning since changing the exhaust and I’m actually getting better fuel economy with it! This is despite opening up the throttle more regularly to listen to the roar!


Good work. I found the opposite with fuel consumption after fitting.

What map are you running?
Post #789318 29th Aug 2019 9:50am
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Interesting your mpg has improved Col , mine has since the intercooler and remap up by 2.3mpg (I have to record all my mileage and fuel usage for work so know it to a decimal place)

Hearing your mpg improvement has tempted me even further who knows one day I could get the same mpg as Caterham Rolling with laughter but then Zeds has gone down Big Cry

I'm still very very tempted Thumbs Up 2015 HT XS 90
2008 SVX 90
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Post #789321 29th Aug 2019 10:24am
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Zed



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I’m pretty sure my right foot is responsible for my MPG.

Also in summer I have the air con on constantly. I doubt I’ll get Caterham’s figures even when I switch motors to EV.-
Post #789323 29th Aug 2019 10:44am
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hank



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Will have to calculate what MPG I'm getting with the cat removed as well as the straight through!

Sulisuli wrote:
Hearing your mpg improvement has tempted me even further

Get a 'zorst on there Suli you know you want it! > 110 XS Double Cab
Post #789324 29th Aug 2019 10:49am
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If ZED has a reduced MPG aircon as he said or implied is likely the culprit.
Much the same applies with a high electrical load on the Alternator too, that can reduce MPG also.

Use the Millers Diesel additive all the time too, that'll add to it.
I've got mine about the best I can MPG wise, but I do keep the CAT in my case as factory fit.

Removing Snorkel or RAI will have extremely little or any difference really, BAS tested this.
The pipework however can be.
But I do have factory fitted sealed pipework on mine.

The SS exhaust is on my list at some point.
Did you know Alive do a finance option too should anyone need it. Laughing

Very Happy ⭐️⭐️God Bless the USA 🇬🇧🇺🇸 ⭐️⭐️
Post #789327 29th Aug 2019 11:03am
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Sulisuli



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I use the millers on every tankful which is every 2 days at present Shocked

I must admit the Alive one is my preferred at present only because I have been very happy with all their our products and excellent customer service.

I can't believe between all the named exhaust companies in this thread that there can be much variation to be honest, price wise all very close, quality wise they are known and respected so I guess it's down to personal choice. 2015 HT XS 90
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