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Alex1976



Member Since: 23 Jan 2013
Location: Buckingham
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Dyna Beads
So with me refurbing my wheels and not wanting the stuck on weights all over them I decided to order a set of Dyna Beads to see how these perform. Hopefully they do all that they promise as the beads, applicator bottle and valve stem removal tool cost £85.

I will report back once I have got some miles on using them and let you have feedback.


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Post #761427 1st Mar 2019 7:49pm
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v8steve



Member Since: 18 Apr 2011
Location: dumfries scotland
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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Rimini Red
have them in mine for about 2 years now. work great 110 xs s/wagon
s3 swb soft top
Post #761429 1st Mar 2019 8:02pm
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donmacn



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I didn't have such a great experience I must admit, but I was trying to tackle a "death wobble" and hoping dynabeads would achieve that was probably too optimistic.

I do like the idea myself, and might try again at a point where I know the rest of the steering/wheel bearings etc is in good order.

One thing though, at one point, I needed to do something with the tyre valve - maybe try and deflate the tyre slightly after filling at a garage air-station. A bead got into the valve, couldn't get it out, flat tyre.... not happy.

All this was umpty um years ago though, so maybe they're different/better now. I'll look forward to seeing other replies. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #761443 1st Mar 2019 8:36pm
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jst



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could you not have just removed the valve and pushed the bead back in the tyre then re-inflate? Cheers

James
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Post #761446 1st Mar 2019 8:47pm
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donmacn



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That's what I did when I got home, but I didn't have the tool to hand. It's a long time ago now, so my memory's pretty hazy. It was one of those situations where you're running late to pick up the kids; childminder's getting antsy; traffic is slow etc etc.

I'd got really slick at changing wheels around that due to an issue with tubes and tubeless tyres, so it was easier to just swap the wheel.

If I did refit these - I'd always have a valve tool handy! But it might not even be an issue if the beads themselves are slightly bigger now? These ones were small enough to get into such tight spots. Donald

1994 Defender 300Tdi 110 SW - owned since 2002 - 230k miles and going strong
(The 'rolling restoration' or tinkering thread: http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic58538.html )
2000 Range Rover P38 4.0L V8

in the past..
RR classic - fitted with 200Tdi
1984 RR classic - V8 with ZF auto box
1993 Discovery 300Tdi

not to mention the minis and the Type 2 VW camper...
Post #761451 1st Mar 2019 9:08pm
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custom90



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I like them a lot, I think people tend to fit thinking that is their issue they have like I did but isn’t always the case. Once those other issues are sorted out you then find they are very good.
Ran with it since summer with no issues at all, they’ve been very good.

I have always remembered the possible valve stem issue, to combat this which I’ve never experienced a problem with I carry a valve tool all the time.
That way there is always a plan B should an such event occur whilst out and about. But that’s a slim probability and more likely a wheel change needed I.e. tyre cut, puncture etc etc.

I always check my tyre pressures at home too anyway, so even less probability of problems. I’d rate them 9.5 of 10. Smoothed our higher end speed beautifully too on quite fat tyres.

Definitely recommended.
IIRC Blackwolf here runs it too and has had good success and so did K9F a few years ago as well to avoid adding weights. $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #761468 1st Mar 2019 10:23pm
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blackwolf



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I can confirm that "Blackwood" is a big fan of Dynabeads, but bear in mind that whilst they're great for balance issues they won't help if your wobble is caused by something else. Rolling with laughter
Post #761497 2nd Mar 2019 9:03am
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Grouse



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I have got Dynabeads in a set of Cooper STT’s 265/75/16 they work perfectly - they are though the large size beads fitted by breaking the bead on the tyre - not the small beads which go through the valve stem
Post #761500 2nd Mar 2019 9:12am
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jonny



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I've got a set of the ones D4x4 sell which are similar (but much cheaper Laughing )

They work, but they do seem to have some caveats - at motorway speeds, if you hit a pothole it you get the symptoms of an unbalanced wheel back - slow down or hit another pothole and it'll sort itself out again. I think the beads get bounced around inside the tyres and end up in the wrong place, and it takes a while for them to settle down again.
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Sadi



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Got the IMI Equalflex. You also need to break the bead and then just toss the unopened packet in. At right about 88 to 92 km/h you will get a slight wobble - which disappears as speed increases. So cruising at 110km/h everything is fine. Care should be taken when seating the tyre not to use excessive lubricant to prevent the stuff clinging to it (it resembles confetti) Nitrogen preferred for airing up - but not a prerequisite. On the packet it claims to be friendly to TPMS - but you do get the odd sticky valve - but can often be sorted with some jiggling and patience. But if unscrewing the valve innards - rather position to have valve at the top/12h00 position to prevent the stuff possibly flying out under quick air escape.
Post #762625 9th Mar 2019 5:21am
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custom90



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It seems a positive experience regardless of small or standard beads. Thumbs Up

Blackwolf - "Blackwood" has now been edited into the history books. Whistle Embarassed Rolling with laughter $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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Post #762708 9th Mar 2019 7:09pm
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Alex1976



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Well, just thought I would post an update. A month of using the Dynabeads and I am impressed. The Defender is definitely smoother running and no issues with the beads at any speed.

The stick on weights that I removed must have been slightly off. I hadn’t lost any so I can only presume that either they were never balanced perfectly from new or after 20k of wear on the tyres, they are no longer balanced and needed a rebalance.

Definitely a convert to balancing beads now. My ocd also likes that I don’t have weights stuck on to my nicely painted alloys.



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custom90



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Looking good, and yes indeed even when balanced with weights they get thrown out of balance over time and or possibly lose one. And every time they are swapped around damage an alloy.

They are especially good at higher speeds and easy to install so long as you have a good compressor or lots of time if you don’t! $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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hank



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Never heard of these but sound like a good idea!

Will give it a whirl I think > 110 XS Double Cab
Post #766220 31st Mar 2019 10:29am
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custom90



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Thumbs Up You have two options larger standard beads if your getting new tyres fitted. They are put in before the bead is set and they are inflated. They come in measured precision quantities.

Or smaller Dynabeads that are inserted via the valve stem on a fully deflated tyre with the valve stem core removed.

I have the latter as my tyres were fitted already and had weights as well.
Obviously you need to Jack the axle corner up, put it on a stand one side at a time. Fully deflate the tyre, then remove the valve stem core, rotate the wheel so that the valve stem is at the bottom and gravitational pull is your friend and then you connect the applicator tube and bottle to the valve stem.

Then repeat the above in reverse and re-inflate.

I’ve always been happy with it. Thumbs Up $W33T $0U7H3RN $UG4R
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