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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20453  
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My first gen clutch went at about 42 - 44k, I'm not on 70k on my 2nd gen.
The 2nd gen seems better in many ways but time will tell. This is Genuine LR parts, but they were I believe updated. No Guts, No Glory. 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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24th Jan 2019 7:01pm |
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| andrewlandy Member Since: 07 Feb 2016 Location: Graz Posts: 82  
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Thanks. I wonder if that is standard?
Did you use a LR dealer for the new one? Cost for labour and parts? Do you know if there is a longer life clutch possible. 40K seems low for a clutch? |
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24th Jan 2019 8:47pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20453
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Yes, dealer but I wouldn't use them again, never even put the earth strap securely back on it was loose.
Best part of £1000 I think, but that was over priced.. No Guts, No Glory. 🇬🇧🏴🏴🏴🇮🇪🇺🇸⛽️🛢️⚙️🧰💪 |
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24th Jan 2019 8:56pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3316 
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24th Jan 2019 8:58pm |
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| andrewlandy Member Since: 07 Feb 2016 Location: Graz Posts: 82
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Thx...
is this a hard job? |
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24th Jan 2019 9:02pm |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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If going for an aftermarket clutch would strongly suggest you look at Clutchfix here available from 4x4overlander here. We send them all over the world. Todays clutch went out to Australia.
They are specialist in clutches and make more then Land Rover clutches  Click image to enlarge Front clutch is a massive commercial clutch out of a 1950 lorry. Back one is for a 5.6 V8 This is a typical collection of clutches from Clutchfix Click image to enlarge Brendan |
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24th Jan 2019 9:55pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17450 
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My experiences suggest that genuine Puma clutches are (or at least were, until production stopped) getting better but still aren't great. The lowest mileage replacement in my '07 was under 10k miles, the current clutch (which is I think number 5) has now done 80k miles but, although it doesn't rattle, has no resilience left in its springs and is really pretty horrible to drive. I hope it will last until the weather warms up when I will replace it. So my 2.4 Puma is on number 5 at 233k miles, by comparison my Td5 Discovery is on number 2 at 210k miles.
I reckon with the latest spec. of genuine clutch you should get 50k before it deteriorates, which is pretty dismal really. My next will be Clutchfix, not genuine LR. |
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24th Jan 2019 10:30pm |
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| sako243 Member Since: 08 Jul 2014 Location: Wales Posts: 1225  
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Depends a lot on how you drive I'd have thought. My 110 is on clutch number 3 at 187k but to be honest the last two were not needed.
I had the gearbox out at about 110k to replace and for the sake of £100 or whatever it was to replace the clutch I did so. The one that came out was hardly worn (previous owner but I'd put 50k on it). Third clutch went last weekend at 186.5k as I had the engine out because the crank snapped and again seemed pointless not to and again clutch was hardly worn. This is on a 300Tdi with a 1.2 transfer box so slip the clutch quite a bit pulling off and do a fair bit of towing and offroading but they appear to last well. Not genuine but Valeo, last couple have been 130 clutches. Ed 82 Hotspur Sandringham 6x6 95 Defender 110 300Tdi |
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25th Jan 2019 4:28am |
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| williamthedog Member Since: 29 Dec 2012 Location: south wales Posts: 3441 
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The clutches in older models were fine it's just the puma ones that are absolutely dire. Ok there's more torque and horsepower on pumas than earlier models but you would have thought they would have cured it by now.
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25th Jan 2019 5:05am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17450
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You won't wear out a Puma clutch, it doesn't last long enough to wear out. The problem is that the springs in the driven plate take on a permanent set and at best lose their springiness and rattle around and at worst fall out altogether.
The most likely causal factor is the massive torque and fairly rough running (high angular vibrations) of the TDCi engine, which basically work hardens and then compresses the springs. There is a reason that a DMF is used on all applications (at least all I know of) except the Defender. Incidentally it doesn't make a difference how much or how well you use the clutch, since the springs are being hammered all the time you drive. If you drive with a high degree of mechanical sympathy it will help, though. |
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25th Jan 2019 1:09pm |
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