Rashers wrote:

Also forgot to say, your protective device supplying this DB doesn’t want to be over 40 Amps as that is the limit of the main RCD.

Sorry you are struggling with getting an electrician. I have moved on, I just design the stuff now, I don’t fit anything. We might as well get used to it as the trade is going more and more self-employed and this doesn’t help with getting apprentices or training youngsters, not that many of them want this kind of job. A real shame. The whole of the construction industry is worryingly floored, and I think this discourages getting youngsters involved in the industry.

Rant over £300000 a week for that Man City player. No wonder everyone wants to be a professional footballer not an electrician

also remember the younger generation is all electronic based now, they want to play on game consoles, fanny about making videos on youtube and getting paid for it. For those who do want to get into the field, its very, very hard. I have seen people who I used to go to school with. End up not completing their training due to loss of contracts from the company they worked for. All end up either going back to college or just end up in a call centre. Most just end up in call centres sadly. Also a lot of companies I find are very shy too on taking new people on for training, which is wrong too. I tried to get experience in the computer industry nearly 15 years ago. I was close to my second MCP for windows 2003. But no one would even entertain me, or even entertain the windows XP counter part. I wanted to be in a school as the ICT tech. I ended up coming off the course, and throwing it all in. I kept my bit lab I used for the MCP stuff. Now its retro  Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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NickMc wrote:

Rashers wrote:

Also forgot to say, your protective device supplying this DB doesn’t want to be over 40 Amps as that is the limit of the main RCD.

Sorry you are struggling with getting an electrician. I have moved on, I just design the stuff now, I don’t fit anything. We might as well get used to it as the trade is going more and more self-employed and this doesn’t help with getting apprentices or training youngsters, not that many of them want this kind of job. A real shame. The whole of the construction industry is worryingly floored, and I think this discourages getting youngsters involved in the industry.

Rant over £300000 a week for that Man City player. No wonder everyone wants to be a professional footballer not an electrician

The motor trade is sadly going the same way- autonomous vehicles that only 1% of the mechanics in the world can fix, no one that stays past the 2 year mark or finishes up after you invest the time and money into them only to head overseas for more money and a better lifestyle. Most dealers now as well send you off to get factory trained and keep the knowledge inside. Or 3 years and no way to ever move up and you get squeezed and squeezed on time by the bosses to
make more money, because it’s all warranty work paid at a reduced rate, then have to buy all you own tools and Diagnostics gear at a cost of 25k minium- which the top money you’ll ever earn working for someone is 28k not to mention beating your body, poisoning your lungs only for the customer to tell you “ they saw on YouTube or read on the internet”

I’ve been waiting now on four different guys 22 weeks! And I’m fairness to them they seem to be working 12-14 hours a day 6 days a week, because there’s too much work
and not enough of them!

Yeah they are making them more harder for the average mechanic now to work on, in fact some of the new lads wouldn't even have a clue about carb based systems and other types of suspensions. If a mossy minor came in for repair, I recon they wouldn't even have a clue on what to do with it, as I don't think colleges even train them on the old stuff sadly. I found that out when I did a course years ago. All about the diagnostics that you plug in. Also Nickmc, have you seen how new cars are built? Nissan is just flung together, they can get a car built with in an hour, ( 45 mins ) They really do screw the work force to do it mind. But the money is good, but you are bed to work. I make the parts for their cars, which is a good job to do. Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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Rashers wrote:

I cannot complain about the money I earned as an Electrician. In my day, I worked nights, weekends, evenings, early mornings - you normal people don’t like being disturbed so I had to work when you didn’t.
Time and a half Saturday morning, double time Saturday afternoon and Sunday. Two 10 hour days at a weekend would be 37.5hrs paid, another weeks wages, not that we ever worked 7.5 hrs a day. 8 was grim, 9 better, 10hrs a day was good. You get used to the hours and the money.

The down side is I saw a lot of people grow apart from their wives / partners and guys whose children were strangers to them. The kids never wanted for anything, other than a Father. Divorce was the norm. Money isn’t everything. The hours were like a drug for some.

I still believe that construction is a cracking industry to be in and I don’t regret my career. Would I go down that road again, possibly not. Would I recommend anyone’s child to become an electrician, mmmm I’m not so sure I would.

Should this be in the grumpy man thread? Sorry. I’ve hyjacked your thread

what you are describing there rashers, is supermarket jobs. They want the earth from you, and yeah the job does kill family life sadly. No job is worth that at all. Working all weekends etc, Xmas plans thrown at you in august, XMAS launched at the back end of October. By the time November is out you are sick of the sight of it all. Then there is the pressure of leading up to the big day. People getting nasty etc. Once the big day is here, you just don't want to know as you are too drained. Weekends are family time, I will not take anyone's time from their weekend, after working in a supermarket, cause of this very thing you mentioned. People growing a part from wives/ partners etc. I would rather take the time off from work, for job that needs to be done or if some one is coming to look at a job. The a lot of industries need looking at badly. Retail is a major must, as my former work mates are working boxing day now and newyears day. best thing I did was get into production. At least you do get the weekends off and holidays. No need for it all, Emergency services I am very grateful to. With them giving up their time, but sadly they are not paid for it enough. I always have a drink on them at xmas and new year.  Defender TD5 90 ---/--- Peugeot 306 HDI hatch back

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