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barbel jim



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United Kingdom 2005 Defender 90 Td5 HT Tonga Green
90 to a Disco 2 am I Mad ??
Well after discussing things at great length 18 months ago and pointing out having 2 90's wasn't the most practical, the seasons have changed and so has SWMBO's opinion Rolling Eyes For the first time she needed to get Nan in the front and 2 elderly aunts in the back which apparently was nigh on impossible. (I'd wish I'd gone just to watch ) so all of a sudden we need to solve this issue Laughing
Sooo we both like the D4 but I really don't fancy the running cost,depreciation or all that electrickery, never struck on the D3, but we did previously have a D2. It's a bit more basic but extremely comfortable and relatively simple to maintain and run (I do like a TD5 Mr. Green ) I'd be interested to hear people's opinions , and tips on where and how to source a good 1
Post #737519 30th Oct 2018 7:49am
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DonH2000



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United Kingdom 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Santorini Black
Just make sure the chassis is not full of holes and rust worm!!!! Cheers Don.
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Freypal



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United Kingdom 1992 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Portofino Red
I loved my Td5 D2. Ran it for 4 years and sold it on 180,000 miles.

As above the main or only real area of concern for me is the chassis, particularly the rear 1/4 legs around the fuel tank. I had to weld mine.

They still have a great following, parts are readily available and decent off-road. Mine was fantastic in the snow...

All other issues are simple to fix. I'd have another one in a heartbeat if I wasn't covering the miles I now do.
Post #737525 30th Oct 2018 8:21am
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blackwolf



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Not mad at all, if you find a good one. I personally think that the Disco 2 is possible the best dual purpose vehicle that the world has ever seen (and probably now will ever see). Not too complex, easy to maintain, extremely comfortable, and yet brilliant off-road. It can tow as much as a Defender to. Also it doesn't leak so much and is less likely to be stolen.
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Freypal



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United Kingdom 1992 Defender 90 200 Tdi HT Portofino Red
One other consideration that I'd have these days now we have kids is crash safety. They're not going to stack up to something newer like the D3 you mention. Although still better than the Defender!
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bigfatsi



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Aintree Green
Another recommendation for revisiting a D3.

Right badge. Boxy LR styling. Mostly 7 seats and leather. Sat nav. Mint sound system. Fuel burning heater. Electric everything. Biggest boot of anything except a van. Can camp in it. Amazing off road. Good on road. Not too bad on fuel. Loads of parts back up now.

Why did I buy a 110 again?

Dammit...
Post #737529 30th Oct 2018 8:48am
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OsloBlue



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United Kingdom 2003 Defender 110 Td5 XS CSW Oslo Blue
Major regret letting the significant other take the D4. Especially when i found out the manual versions were quite rare! I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/
Current: TD5 '110 "Lucinda" Thread here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic62562.html
Post #737533 30th Oct 2018 9:18am
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defender9



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United Kingdom 2015 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 SW Keswick Green
It would be a D3/D4 for me, I ran a D3 for 8 years and it was the most capable and practical vehicle I have ever owned, only had a few slight niggles over that time. They are heavy on suspension parts but overall a great do everything vehicle. IMO it’s what the new Defender should be but slightly less complex.
Post #737534 30th Oct 2018 9:18am
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leeds



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90 to a Disco 2 am I Mad ??




Simple answer for the change of circumstances in transporting elderly relatives it would be a sensible move. However a small folding plastic step would also prove useful.

Just ensure you find one which is as rust free as possible.

D3/4s will be more expensive to buy and also more expensive to maintain. Allow at least £1,500/year for repairs on average.


So depends on how much you really want to spend, time that you can commit to the search.


Good luck with the search and let us know the result and why you went for a particular model.



Brendan
Post #737542 30th Oct 2018 9:31am
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geobloke



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Re: 90 to a Disco 2 am I Mad ??
barbel jim wrote:
Well after discussing things at great length 18 months ago and pointing out having 2 90's wasn't the most practical, the seasons have changed and so has SWMBO's opinion Rolling Eyes For the first time she needed to get Nan in the front and 2 elderly aunts in the back which apparently was nigh on impossible. (I'd wish I'd gone just to watch ) so all of a sudden we need to solve this issue Laughing
Sooo we both like the D4 but I really don't fancy the running cost,depreciation or all that electrickery, never struck on the D3, but we did previously have a D2. It's a bit more basic but extremely comfortable and relatively simple to maintain and run (I do like a TD5 Mr. Green ) I'd be interested to hear people's opinions , and tips on where and how to source a good 1


I sympathise entirely. Whilst it is not Grannies we need to transport, it is dogs and people. We have also looked at the TD5 Disco for SWMBO as she regrets passing on her much loved 300tdi Disco (The Duke of Argyll). The problem is that finding an unmolested, well maintained and reasonably priced Discovery of the TD5/300tdi era is getting very difficult indeed. So we also looked in to the D3 and D4 and whilst we very much like the vehicle I am wary of the reported unreliability and repair costs.

Our solution for the next few years is going to be a Freelander 2 as it is big enough, but also fairly DIY friendly and can return reasonable mpg figures as well.

Literally just put a deposit down on one last weekend.

Having spent many hours crawling around, under and inside various Freelanders I can tell you that although there are masses of them out there, finding a good one is quite the challenge. Also, the majority of second hand car dealers are a funny breed... Rolling with laughter Rolling with laughter

If time is a luxury you can afford take it and spend it visiting as many examples as practical. Plus, be prepared to travel to find that decent vehicle; Over here in NW Wales the second hand car market is a shallow pool filled with end-of-lifers and evolutionary dead-ends... Rolling Eyes
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miker



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United Kingdom 1999 Defender 110 Td5 CSW Rioja Red
geobloke wrote:
Over here in NW Wales the second hand car market is a shallow pool filled with end-of-lifers and evolutionary dead-ends... Rolling Eyes


Is that the cars or the people selling them Laughing
Post #737557 30th Oct 2018 10:34am
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discomog



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I loved my D3 and D4 but both suffered with electronics later in life. Defender 90XS SW
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Post #737569 30th Oct 2018 11:51am
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steveyorks



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England 1993 Defender 90 200 Tdi CSW Barolo Black
A disco 2 would suit your needs perfectly with the added bonus of tying up less money. Rear chassis are bad but fixable for around £600 at a garage, still small money compared to a defender. Remap the TD5 for extra driveability and its win win. The only thing id once you have had a Defender and enjoy the essential fiddling its not quite the same, but then you have your other one for that.
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DAZ110



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 90 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Barolo Black
Don't forget disco 2 sunroofs are good at leaking.
Probably best to try to find one without sunroofs.
Post #737582 30th Oct 2018 1:00pm
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blackwolf



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 DCPU Stornoway Grey
I think that the major cause of sunroof leaks is that the drain tubes become detached from the sunroof gutter due to the plastic spigot breaking. I notice that it is now possible to get a repair part for this that (supposedly) fixes the problem without the need to replace the sunroof, although the headlining does need lowering for access.

The sunroofs are a nice-to-have feature. Mine have not leaked (yet) and my 2002 D2 has well over 200k miles on it now.
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