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| IanW Member Since: 12 Jun 2011 Location: Gloucestershire Posts: 172   
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Students putting forward their โmotionsโ - reminds me that there is more than one meaning for some words. One wife - livid
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19th Oct 2018 7:51pm |
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| Adam17 Member Since: 15 May 2018 Location: Within Bedfordshire Posts: 1193  
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Agreed - good on you! Someone has to care. The world is in a sad state of affairs. Regards Adam Loving The Duchess The Defender 110 TD5 XS My Defender story - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic64005.html |
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20th Oct 2018 9:54am |
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| OsloBlue Member Since: 14 Jul 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 823 
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Just ordered my grille poppy, hope it winds them up. I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/
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21st Oct 2018 6:02pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20494
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I have a Poppy too I bought a few weeks ago, one of the car ones from RBL.
 No Guts, No Glory.
๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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21st Oct 2018 6:08pm |
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| mini Anaconda Member Since: 23 Aug 2016 Location: Thames Valley Posts: 793
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I have a union jack bonnet and HGV sized poppy on my 90...
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21st Oct 2018 8:12pm |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20494
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No Guts, No Glory.
๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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21st Oct 2018 8:14pm |
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| VVS210 Member Since: 12 Nov 2016 Location: Hampshire Posts: 953
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Click image to enlarge "When you go home, tell them of us and say, for their tomorrow, we gave our today." |
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24th Oct 2018 2:17pm |
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| jeffersj Member Since: 23 Jan 2015 Location: Near Preston Posts: 431 
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To add in agreement of all above - we can legitimately ask, what good will come of acknowledging the suffering and resilience of people 100 years ago BUT -
An act of communal 'remembrance', such as a minutes' silence reminds us that we all need each other, in good times or bad, just as we did in the past, or more importantly, as we certainly will in the future. We are part of each other's happiness. That too is what we are remembering. My g/father was killed during WW1 with no known grave but listed on the Menin gate in Ypres and I will be honouring those that gave their lives in all conflicts. Jeff Ex 1968 Series 2A Ex 90 TD5 Ex D3 Ex D4 |
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26th Oct 2018 9:09am |
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| Mash Member Since: 09 Feb 2015 Location: Guernsey Posts: 1674  
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With this important day coming up we must remember this is a lot more than remembering the soldiers of the Great War, this time of year with recent hostilities coming to an end and new ones beginning for our countries men and women, who are still deployed in theatres of war, this is our time to honour them and remember all they have given physicalaly and mentally.
When you stand silent and bow your head to remember a distant family member, just remember the person left or right of you may be remebring a recent family member or best friend he or she was alongside at the worst possible time, if you do see someone struggling please make an effort to see if they are ok, sometimes just asking is enough to help them. To my brothers and sisters on this forum we may not of served shoulder to shoulder but I thank each and everyone of you. Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge 90 wolf - Jasmin http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic39408.html 90 V8 - Maggie http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic42564.html 110 TD5 - Buggsy http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic59029.html 52HG25 lightweight https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic72342.html D3 Hse - Fiona Capri 2l S - Anna Think I might have a problem............ |
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26th Oct 2018 11:53pm |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3331 
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Thank you for your post Mash. A most appropriate sentiment.
Lest we forget. I do worry that message has been lost in recent times. The act of remembrance has been hijacked and turned into the British championship for virtue signalling. In days gone by one would wear a simple British Legion paper poppy and pay respects on Remembrance Sunday plus the 11th when it falls on a different day. These poppies were made by veterans in the Richmond factory and one would donate an appropriate sum. Nowadays folks seem more concerned with telling the internet just how much they care and vilifying others they deem not respectful enough. Instead of a paper poppy these types drape themselves, cars and homes with as much chinese made landfill destined poppy related tat as humanly possible. Remembrance day now has more in common with Halloween or Red Nose Day, only instead of one or two days it goes on for weeks, sometimes months. |
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27th Oct 2018 9:24am |
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| custom90 Member Since: 21 Jan 2010 Location: South West, England. Posts: 20494
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Virtue signalling is going around with a white poppy.
I would have thought the more people that show their respects, the more the population would be grateful that we have not forgotten. That I would have thought was much more important than how somone wishes to display their red poppy. No Guts, No Glory. ๐ฌ๐ง๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ฅ๓ ฎ๓ ง๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ท๓ ฌ๓ ณ๓ ฟ๐ด๓ ง๓ ข๓ ณ๓ ฃ๓ ด๓ ฟ๐ฎ๐ช๐บ๐ธโฝ๏ธ๐ข๏ธโ๏ธ๐งฐ๐ช |
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27th Oct 2018 10:00am |
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| Zed Member Since: 07 Oct 2017 Location: In the woods Posts: 3331
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I didn't know much about white poppies until a few years back when I saw a neighbour at our local Remembrance service wearing one alongside all his medals. Really interesting chap. He was wounded and captured at Arnhem during Operation Market Garden. He managed to escape and was helped by locals to eventually make it back. Incredible story and he was so matter of fact about it. Anyway he told me he would only wear a white poppy as he believed in peace but wanted to remember his comrades. Remarkable gentleman. Not seen him for a while, probably passed on now. I think he said he was only 19 at the time.
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27th Oct 2018 11:27am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5859  
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I'll wear a red poppy, always have, always will. It is the icon the stands for Remembrance. However, and I have been reminded of this just this week with documentaries on the Great War and the recent war in Syria, I am forever saddened by the futility of war and the waste of life, egineered more often than not by men whom have never served, nor will ever serve, their country in battle. They launch our countries into conflicts with impunity and without a second's thought for the devastation it will wreak on so many soldiers and their families. I served and did so with pride. I also immensely enjoyed my service, including all overseas postings and operations. Indeed so much so that I would still recommend service to any son or daughter of any friend of mine, thinking about joining. But the irony is that I nevertheless hate the realities of war, the devastation it leaves behind, the friends I have lost, the damage to their families, the friends who's lives have been irreversably effected, the civilian collateral, the regions devastated, and all to satisfy the ego of a Western Politician or a regional dictator. Whilst we may have to go to war to defend ourselves and our democracies (and for that we still need standing armies), as was the case in WWI and WWII, recent conflicts have, in my opinion, been a total and utter waste of life. Iraq and Afghanistan need never have happened and I remain sad to this day for them. We have turned from defenders to protagonists and not only reaped a whirlwind in a region that has yet to recover, and likely won't in our lifetime, but far from improving our secrity we have actually made the situation worse. We are bigger targets than we ever were. With all this in mind, whilst I will not ever wear a white poppy, the utter futility of modern warfare, lessons from which we refuse to learn, certainly make me identify with the sentiments of your 'old boy with the medals' and I would consider myself to be largely 'peaceful', if not an out and out pacifist. Monsieur Le Grenadier
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27th Oct 2018 2:09pm |
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| jeffersj Member Since: 23 Jan 2015 Location: Near Preston Posts: 431
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Just copied this from Defender & Series FB page
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29th Oct 2018 4:58pm |
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