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| stanley Member Since: 18 Sep 2009 Location: Dorset /hampshire Posts: 1032   
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If you use the phone as the main controller so to speak would that lead to potentially using a handheld device?
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21st Oct 2018 1:30pm |
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| geobloke Member Since: 06 Nov 2012 Location: Nottinghamshire Posts: 4410
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Now that's a fabulous can of worms...  Since no-one else has replied, allow me;
As I understand it and please correct me if I am wrong folks, In the UK when it comes to driving the law sits on the side of "if it distracts the driver from the job of driving then you are at risk of prosecution/fine/points-on-your-license, if caught". The driver is allowed to use their phone or the on-board screen as a sat-nav however, the driver is not allowed to touch it once the engine is running or at standstill (traffic lights). The driver is allowed to touch their sat-nav or phone if "safely parked". The driver is allowed to change the radio station however, if the driver is judged to be distracted by this then it falls under the "if it distracts the driver from the job of driving..." scenario. The driver is allowed to answer a phone however, they cannot touch the phone; so hands free and voice enabled answering is necessary. If however, the driver is overly distracted by this then it falls under the "if it distracts the driver from the job of driving..." scenario. The driver is not allowed to touch the phone once the engine is running or at standstill (traffic lights). The driver is allowed to touch their sat-nav or phone if "safely parked". The driver is allowed to eat and drink (obviously not booze) however, if the driver is overly distracted by this then it falls under the "if it distracts the driver from the job of driving..." scenario. Of course the driver has to be caught before this is a problem for them however, the laws on driver distractions are only ever going to get more strict and more enforced. The passenger only falls under the above rules if they are supervising a learner driver. So to answer your question; as the driver cannot physically engage with something that could distract them from the job of driving then it does not matter that the phone is used as the interface for the stereo because the driver cannot touch it anyway. |
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23rd Oct 2018 8:56am |
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| MikeJ Member Since: 04 May 2014 Location: Dorchester, Dorset Posts: 41 
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsbeat/article/3913...re-driving
I think you're ok if you are not holding the phone. If it's in a cradle or holder like this one, then it's not illegal to touch it (as you would touch a built in radio/sat nav/any other vehicle control). However, you can still be prosecuted under the "if it distracts the driver". You just can't be done for using a hand held device in this case. |
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25th Oct 2018 11:47am |
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| Grenadier Member Since: 23 Jul 2014 Location: The foot of Mont Blanc... Posts: 5816  
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Two observations on the general thread.
First, Mrs Grenadier borrowed my iPad to play Spotify in her car recently (she has Audi MMI which works brilliantly with Spotify, btw) and I was forced to revert to using an SD Card which I keep in the mechless drive as back up. I never use the radio as in France it is basically s**t. Wow, what a difference. The quality of sound from an SD card with non compressed digital file is a world apart from Spotify through BT which is my daily choice. So much so that I might just create a selection of playlists on SD cards and keep them in the Def instead. I’m not one for swapping frequently between playlists, I’ll play one all day, maybe for a few days, so swapping cards would not be a hassle. Indeed I doubt it would be any slower than on Spotify. FYI, I do have a full Focal system and sub, which is perhaps why I noticed it more, but genuinely quite a difference to playing an app through BT. 
Second, on the subject of phones, I’m a great believer that hands free or hand held has nothing to do with danger. I warrant that my one arm is stronger than that of young tennage girls or 80 year old men. However, when I get in the Def the phone goes in the cubby as in my opinion it is the distracting nature of phones that make them dangerous, not whether your holding them or not. I don’t believe there’s anyone on this planet who can drive with their full attention whilst holding down a conversation with a third party at the other end of the line. You can with a passenger who will instinctively be observing your driving and traffic conditions, pausing naturally as you conduct manoeuvres, but not someone at distance. I personally think their use in a car, by the driver, should be banned, totally.  Monsieur Le Grenadier
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