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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018   
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I wonder where these guys will be in 9 years time? Doing today what JLR said was not possible:  Click image to enlarge RJ Scaringe (@RJScaringe) Tweeted: Our configurator is going live on November 16th for preorder holders! My kids want blue.  https://t.co/YP9MWoAKep https://twitter.com/RJScaringe/status/1327362968158433281?s=20 |
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14th Nov 2020 12:52pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Click image to enlarge landroverphotoalbum (@landroverpa) Tweeted: The @lucky8offroad All-New Defender among a superb Autumnal setting, captured by the skilled hand of @chrisjeyes at @tailoredautomotive #landrover #L663 #Defender2020 #AllNewDefender #Defender110 #landroverdefender #landroverphotoalbum #landroverevolved #TeamDefender https://t.co/sJSVzByl6F https://twitter.com/landroverpa/status/1327590140219371527?s=20 |
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14th Nov 2020 1:10pm |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1316 
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I don't know Supercat, but I think I know where JLR will be in 9 years time. Sadly, I fear they will be another SAAB, MG Rover, TVR or LDV.
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14th Nov 2020 1:12pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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Well I have no idea, but I hope they are able to move away from where they are right now and re-invent themselves as an engineering led brand.
I have hope with the changes starting to be seen from the top. The last 10 years have seen them badly managed and squander brand capital as well as much actual capital chasing the quixotic dream of 1m vehicles per annum. It's interesting to read what Daimler think will be their future: "In the next five years Dainler will become a smaller company, CEO Ola Kallenius said. FRANKFURT -- Daimler will be a smaller company five years from now, focused on capturing recurring revenues with software-based services as Mercedes-Benz seeks to redefine luxury in an era of electric and self-driving cars, CEO Ola Kallenius said. The company founded by Carl Benz, who patented the first gasoline-powered car in 1886, is accelerating plans to shift the automaker beyond combustion-engine vehicles, a step which will result in job losses. "The next five years we will become a smaller company," Kallenius told a Reuters Events broadcast on Thursday. "We will have a fundamental change in the industrial footprint on the powertrain side," he said. Jobs will disappear because it takes less time to build an electric car than a conventional gasoline or diesel version. That's because an electric car's battery and motor have only 200 components, compared with at least 1,400 parts found in a combustion engine and transmission, according to analysts at ING. The shift away from fossil fuel requires the automaker to double down on efficiency so it can free up resources to build electric and self-driving cars, Kallenius said. "We are hiring a lot of new software engineers, experts in battery chemistry, electrification," he said. Making Daimler smaller also fits with a new era where luxury no longer defines itself through opulence and excess but also through sustainability and efficiency. "There is no doubt in our minds that the footprint that this product leaves on this Earth needs to be smaller. That is part of the modern luxury promise," Kallenius said. Mercedes is tapping engineering expertise from its Formula One team to build the EQXX, an electric vehicle which aims to be the most efficient vehicle capable of taking passengers from Stuttgart, Germany, to Marseille, France, on a single charge. "It is a pre-development project to introduce new technologies," Kallenius said. Daimler also wants to offer customers new digital services so it can make money with new, recurring sources of revenue such as assisted driving functionalities and infotainment services when it unveils a new vehicle operating system in 2024. "Think about it like an iPhone," Kallenius said, explaining that with new software updates, new services and functions can be included. "You can add to it," he said. "That’s the beauty of it." To invest in digital tech, Daimler plans to tap growth in China, potentially by building new models in the market where Mercedes-Benz sees the biggest growth potential over the next 10 years. "If we have individual models which reach a critical mass in China ... that’s possible," Kallenius said, adding that no decision has been made to localize production of new models. "It depends on how the market develops," he said. " https://europe.autonews.com/automakers/dai...s-ceo-says |
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14th Nov 2020 2:21pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4662 
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Just back from a medical for my driving licence renewal. The doctor spent most of it asking me about the New Defender i.e. whether I had driven one and what I thought of it etc. No matter what your thoughts on the new Defender it certainly has gotten people's attention. Oh , yeah, the medical went O.K. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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14th Nov 2020 2:26pm |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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That’s my problem, range, or not so much range as recharge time to get range. I regularly, well 12(ish) times a year, do a 570 mile haul from Surrey to Heelands which normally takes between 9 or 10 hours, dependant on traffic. Crashes (not mine) can add to that. Any time spent sitting staring at a mediocre coffee going cold in a service station while trying to squeeze more miles in the tank turns that into an overnight trip. Plus I’d need range in real life conditions, with heater, AC, lights, music, heated seats, etc, etc, etc, all switched on. Also I have the habit of heading off to the top of Norway via quite a few remote places, where I know there is zero chance of finding a charging point. Now I love the polar bears as prob more than most, well they are cute, but I’d only be voluntarily interested in EVs if the recharge time was down to similar time to bung 50 litres of diesel or petrol in the metaphorical tank. Until they get that sorted I’ll be buying the last of the conventionally fuelled cars in 9 years time then the last hybrid in 14 years with an aim to keep it until forced out of it by lack of fuel. My 2 pence worth.  |
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14th Nov 2020 2:58pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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570 miles in 9 hours is averaging over 63mph without a stop.
Have to question whether that is safe or wise? If you were on a tacho, how long would that journey have to take? |
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14th Nov 2020 5:38pm |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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It’s fine safety wise, I have no problem concentrating for that period of time/distance. There’s usually plenty of stops due to the diuretic effect of coffee, as supplied by McDs. The trick for me is to not try and do it as fast as poss, just take it easy, let CC take the strain and let the fast stuff just flow past me.
PS 9 hours might be a tad optimistic for me, that’s the time SWMBO used to take. She would cruise at ~75mph. I keep at 60mph on the old CC, esp on the A9 sections. |
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14th Nov 2020 5:46pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I guess the point I'm making is that if you had normal breaks, or tacho breaks, then the charging would always be concurrent and so not an issue.
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14th Nov 2020 6:32pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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I used to leave Hanger Lane Premier Inn. west London and take M40/M42/M6/M74/M8/M80 to Stirling with 30-50 minute stops at BMHC Gaydon, Stafford Services then Teebay Services for around an hour including topping up with diesel in my FFRR’s and various RRS’s - would leave London around 10am on a Saturday and be in the house around 1900. Only did that between late April and late September other times I would stop overnight at Teebay North hotel and set off after a nice breakfast to finish the trip. Going south I left Stirling between 3pm and 4pm to miss the Glasgow Commuters going home to place in the Clyde Valley and stop overnight at Lancaster Premier Inn. Leave around 9.30/10am to miss the worst of the traffic at J21 -J19 on M6 and arrive in London around 3-4pm depending how long I spent at the Motor Heritage Centre at Gaydon having lunch at their lovely cafe. I also fuelled up at the Gaydon filling station and would regularly see disguised new JLR cars out on test. In mid-winter I used to let the plane take the strain and these days I dislike doing long solo drives in the dark so now stop at the Lancaster Premier Inn south and northbound. Problem when I did the run with the Mini PHEV (which was pretty good on a long motorway run apart from only a 35ltr petrol capacity) was charging places - there arent many service areas on the M74, nothing at the Premier Inn at Lancaster or at the nearby Shell station, then you had hit and miss electric charging all the way south but on the one trip I did in the car I gave up charging on the motorway as either the non Tesla points were all occupied or they were out of order......... also the Mini took 3 hours to gain 25 miles charge! It wasn’t really meant for that sort of trip and at 70 on pure fossil fuel it wasn’t particularly economical either. I only did the trip once in it and started to take the train which was actually quicker via the East Coast Line than driving all the way - 5 hours from my local station until GNER disappeared and the service omitted Stirling. Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come 2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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14th Nov 2020 7:51pm |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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I prob take the equiv of one tacho break every trip, it’s just split into 4 chunks. |
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14th Nov 2020 8:09pm |
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| 90 Dreamer Member Since: 13 Jul 2019 Location: Oop North Posts: 2154 
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No chance of an electric thing doing this..........
https://www.thedrive.com/news/37625/italia...-two-hours |
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15th Nov 2020 10:34am |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2638  
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Love that picture Supercat. Sick to death already of the predicable British overpriced bling house tart ups.... Keep posting when you find them... |
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15th Nov 2020 11:03am |
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| DSL Member Since: 20 Aug 2007 Location: Wandering the wasteland. Posts: 837
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Saw my first green one, wheel arch extensions and first lunchbox installation in the flesh.
Click image to enlarge SWMBO thinks they look really good but the colour was greeted with “It’s green!”. That was not in the tone of 2001 re “it’s full of stars”, it was said in the tone of SWMBO’s disparaging “it’s mingie”. Still, two steps forward and just one step back.  |
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15th Nov 2020 11:20am |
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