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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4703  
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Did they add those oil spots on the ground to give some credibility to the new model?
And like others have mentioned there seems to be a lot of mud traps on the underneath due to that shielding. Fair enough it will dry and cake solid but it will be a problem when your friendly MOT man has it up on the ramp. He will not be happy with those areas caked in mud. But how are you supposed to clean it out? On the old model you could access the underneath with a garden hose that will not work with the new model. 1982 88" 2.25 diesel 1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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9th Jun 2020 4:50pm |
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| JackW Member Since: 09 Jan 2017 Location: Roswell, Georgia Posts: 115  
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No if you want a real seven seater you buy a Discovery 5 - mine has been brilliant for the the last three years.
I just prefer a more utilitarian vehicle so I'm getting a new Defender but I'm sure I'll miss the TDV6 D5 a lot. I think the 130 version of the Defender will address the rear load space issue. |
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9th Jun 2020 6:05pm |
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| Pacha Member Since: 23 Feb 2020 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 772  
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 Click image to enlarge Rgds. Chris |
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9th Jun 2020 6:30pm |
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| spudfan Member Since: 10 Sep 2007 Location: Co Donegal Posts: 4703
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Remember people saying that the Defender was out dated and needed a serious revamp to bring into modern times? Well look what they got. There's the old adage "Be careful what you wish for.." 1982 88" 2.25 diesel
1992 110 200tdi csw -Zikali 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw-Zulu 2011 110 2.4 tdci csw-Masai |
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9th Jun 2020 10:54pm |
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| goodtimes Member Since: 04 Jan 2020 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 29
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What you suggest with the lack of durability of the “rubber” interior would be a very significant interior design flaw that needs fleshing out. Do you or does anyone else in the forum have any details on the material chosen for these interior surfaces (example: dashboard frame) that would suggest summer heat would transform the materials and degrade them permanently? |
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10th Jun 2020 12:36am |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2643  
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Maybe Khan will bring out a stupidly expensive dashboard carpet with tassels on it to protect the dash plastics melting.
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10th Jun 2020 12:30pm |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1317 
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Hi goodtimes. I don't have any details of the rubber used. And it could be perfectly OK and give years of faultless service.
But I have had bad experiences with "tactile" rubber like coatings on a couple of products. A very expensive Bang & Olufsen music centre and an Eton world band radio. Both had a soft touch coating that was very durable when new, but after about 10 years the coating on both started to feel sticky to the touch and any dust that settled on them would be glued to the surface. Same thing happened to a British Army sleeping bag I had which had a waterproof base. I am perhaps worried over nothing and have no evidence that the coating will be a problem. I guess only time will tell. |
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10th Jun 2020 2:18pm |
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| goodtimes Member Since: 04 Jan 2020 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 29
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Thanks lohr500 - I have had similar issues with consumer products as well and know what you mean. If I learn anything new from my dealer I will share it with everyone.
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10th Jun 2020 2:37pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17442 
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I have recently had the gooey-rubber experience on some very expensive Canon camera equipment, I was not at all impressed.
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10th Jun 2020 3:11pm |
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| goodtimes Member Since: 04 Jan 2020 Location: Greenwich, CT Posts: 29
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Update: test drive scheduled for tomorrow. Will circle back.
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10th Jun 2020 3:20pm |
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| apt100 Member Since: 05 Mar 2015 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 1547 
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I'll give JLR the benefit of assuming they have put a bit of thought into the materials used, but it will be interesting to see how they react to various combinations of cleaners, polishes and other chemicals that owners and dealers apply to them.
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10th Jun 2020 3:30pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645  
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Autoweek review
-- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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10th Jun 2020 3:58pm |
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| Procta Member Since: 03 Dec 2016 Location: Sunderland Posts: 5183
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10th Jun 2020 3:58pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2645
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Autoblog review
-- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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10th Jun 2020 4:15pm |
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