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| RobKeay Member Since: 19 Jul 2009 Location: Stafford Posts: 1588   
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1st Mar 2020 8:20am |
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| Fat Cog Member Since: 19 Mar 2012 Location: Oxfordshire & Devon Posts: 502 
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What really concerns me is that JLR actually sanctioned this aberration for public consumption...it's horrific! Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains |
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1st Mar 2020 5:09pm |
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| Tim in Scotland Member Since: 23 May 2007 Location: The Land that time forgot Posts: 3753 
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Unfortunately I think that you will find that that level of “individualism” is all part of The Prof’s gameplay to put the aftermarket kit suppliers out of business - and I’m afraid that there are people out there who want that sort of look - why else would Kahn and so on still be in business Pangea Green D250 90 HSE with Air Suspension, Off-road Pack, Towing Pack, Black Contrast roof , rear recovery eyes, Front bash plate, Classic flaps all round, extended wheel arch kit and a few bits from PowerfulUK Expel Clear Gloss PPF to come
2020 D240 1st Edition in Pangea Green with Acorn interior. Now gone - old faithful, no mechanical issues whatsoever ever but the leaks and rattles all over the place won’t be missed! |
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1st Mar 2020 5:51pm |
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| K.M Member Since: 28 Apr 2016 Location: Salisbury Posts: 300 
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Has anyone had any experience in getting a Part Ex value for their Defender against the new one? It isn’t something I’m considering, I just wondered whether they have been given some sort of directive to offer a decent price to get “the community” in the new model?
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1st Mar 2020 6:01pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018 
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I think it's what Prince Charles would call a carbuncle. |
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1st Mar 2020 6:26pm |
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| Supacat Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 11018
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I think they've been given a directive to give a decent price to just about anyone who shows the slightest interest...the vehicle is not going to sell itself.  |
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1st Mar 2020 6:29pm |
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| lohr500 Member Since: 14 Sep 2014 Location: Skipton Posts: 1325 
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I think the Lego version looks better.
Plot completely lost as far as I am concerned. - Far too expensive to buy. - Not enough load space in either 90 or 110 form. - Overly complex. - No doubt expensive to maintain. - All heritage lost. I'm sure it will be a great Discovery 4 replacement and I wish all those who buy one the very best. But it's not for me. The more I see, the more I also lose interest. |
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1st Mar 2020 6:40pm |
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| Fat Cog Member Since: 19 Mar 2012 Location: Oxfordshire & Devon Posts: 502
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lohr500...nothing more needed to say Since 1973...S1, Air Portable's, Defender's, but only my Wolf TUL HS GS remains
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1st Mar 2020 7:00pm |
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| Naks Member Since: 27 Jan 2009 Location: Stellenbosch, ZA Posts: 2646  
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 Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge Click image to enlarge -- 2010 Defender Puma 90 + BAS remap + Alive IC + Slickshift + Ashcroft ATB rear 2015 Range Rover Sport V8 Supercharged
Defender Puma Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zZ1en9 Discovery 4 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zXrtKO Range Rover/Sport L320/L322/L494 Workshop Manual: https://bit.ly/2zc58JQ |
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1st Mar 2020 8:28pm |
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| Buran Member Since: 02 Feb 2020 Location: Zagreb Posts: 15 
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Starting price in my country for 110 Base model is about €75k including VAT.
Since I can deduct VAT for the vehicle for “business purposes” so it would cost me €60k. Or around £55k. To this I would add all things off-road worthy. Rear locker, winch, raised intake etc. Definitely Diesel engine, but I’m not sure how to decide between 200HP and 240HP model. Since those two are essentially the same engine, probably better to go with 200HP as it is running farther from the upper limit and therefore should be more reliable (at least that’s logic in my world, haven’t got a clue how it’s in JLR world  )
Not that I wouldn’t say no to the extra 20% power, even though I haven’t seen torque curve comparison. So essentially mine would be as basic as humanely possible with maximum off-road “goodies” - and with that I’ve got to 65-ish thousand pounds without VAT... I can afford it on 5 year leasing scheme, but not so much if it breaks often, so hopefully it won’t  
And I intend to put it through some serious stuff without much holding back. Otherwise I would take Disco Sport or whatever. So... que sera, sera... |
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1st Mar 2020 8:52pm |
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| markb110 Member Since: 22 May 2010 Location: Guildford Posts: 2652  
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Anyone else noticed what looks like a step behind the rear seats in the 90 - as in the rear seats don't fold completely flat as they do in the 110.
Click image to enlarge Also as a thought, will it be ultimately annoying to deck it out with a drawer system knowing the battery is under the floor and not easily accessible in an emergency or to add addition accessories? Over to you |
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1st Mar 2020 9:02pm |
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| JackW Member Since: 09 Jan 2017 Location: Roswell, Georgia Posts: 115  
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Main battery is under the right front seat. On the MHEV system the 48V battery is under the rear floor
Maybe the step is for one without the MHEV stystem? |
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2nd Mar 2020 3:27am |
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| 22900013A Member Since: 23 Dec 2010 Location: Oxfordshire Posts: 3150 
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Spotted one today. No comment on the location!
Click image to enlarge 2011 110 USW 1973 Series III 1-Ton 1972 Series III 1-Ton Cherrypicker 1969 IIA 1-Ton 1966 IIA 88" |
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7th Mar 2020 4:31pm |
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| mcma1 Member Since: 16 Oct 2012 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 2917 |
Better from a distance
 Andy
2014 Fuji 110 SW LS3 https://www.defender2.net/forum/post751233.html#751233 2014 Corris 110 SW http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic40056.html My old Xtech 90 build.. http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic15681.html LS3 V8 build... http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic49051.html |
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7th Mar 2020 5:13pm |
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