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A ‘light source’ means any bulb, LED or other means of emitting light.

Repairs to lamps must be assessed for security, colour, light output and durability.


Headlamp emitted colour, position or intensity not in accordance with the requirements
Major defect

Product on the lens or light source which obviously reduces light intensity or changes emitted colour to other than white or yellow
Major Defect

Light source and lamp not compatible
Major Defect

BuckBlu110 wrote:

... He actually said that they weren’t illegal and I wouldn’t get pulled over for it, it’s just that they should fail the mot
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Bluest wrote:

blackwolf wrote:

According to greyhead.co.uk :-

greyhead.co.uk wrote:

ECE Regulations 48 and 98 are the ones which apply to HID headlights, and 48 is the one which deals specifically with how HID headlights must be fitted to be legal.

Headlight washers and automatic levelling
Part 6.2.9. "Other requirements" says: "Dipped-beam headlamps with a light source or LED module(s) producing the principal dipped beam and having a total objective luminous flux which exceeds 2,000 lumen shall only be installed in conjunction with the installation of headlamp cleaning device(s) according to Regulation No. 45.”

So it seems that under European (ECE) law you cannont fit LED lights unless you also fit levelling and washing systems. Whether this is a UK MOT test failure is a different matter.

It is also questionable whether by fitting such units whether approved or not you are invalidating the Whole Vehicle Type Approval for the vehicle. I suspect that you are.

Massively complex. Good bye, good old days of simplicity!

Maybe the approved aftermarket ones don't exceed 2000 lumens??? No idea, just a guess, as that would avoid the need for headlamp cleaning.

Matt_H wrote:

Ok so I've managed to get to it.

Have to say I'm really not that happy with the Landreiziger loom. I see that the quality looks good, but the lengths are all wrong.

There is barely enough length in the cross-car cable to be able to tuck it tidily across the top of the rad, and in doing so it means that the relays end up floating loose behind the airbox. This in turn gives you barely enough to get to the alternator.

I assume it was desgined for a TD5 - needs tweaking to be a good tidy fit in a Puma 2.4 : (

So now the darkness has arrived, this setup has had a good testing this week.

..ing off with this loom.

This is on my good lady wifes car and bascially the lights would run fine but then after 10 minutes or so it all goes dark - then mostly work again on after stopping the car, this has happened 3 times this week (first week of proper use) including one time when it was getting so dark she had to get a recovery company out 5 miles from home and they wouldn't come back to life.

So I assumed this was going to be a simple earth or live connection issue and have been out in the cold this morning to in-theory solve it. I re-did the earth, even though it was good I opted for making it really excellent - its the best one on the car now I reckon. I then checked the live alternator connection and thats all good and tight, no issues there.

I should add that due to the really poor design of this loom for a Puma engine variant, you can't have the relays accessable from under the bonnet (they end up behind the airbox) so to do anything to test this setup you have to do it "through" the headlight hole from the front - a real pain.

After fiddling about with the reachable obvious connections and not getting it to light up I gave up and connected the headlamps back to the original Land Rover H4 connectors - all now working fine. Frankly having spent over fifty quid for what was supposed to be a quality product I should not be in a position where I am going to have to pull it out and bench test it all to find the fault (not about to try and do it through the headlamp hole!). This can wait till a warmer day.

Bah humbug.

Matt.