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El Cyd



Member Since: 21 Sep 2008
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Roll cage
Im looking to fit an external roll cage to the puma and the 90.

does anybody have any recomendations regarding manafacturers (im currently looking at P and P)

A further question is as the Puma is a 58 plate i just want to ensure theres no legislation preventing me from doing this ( like the bull bar legislation)

I saw a comment that EU Regs stopped someone fitting one in norway so just want to play it safe If it aint broke its just waiting.
Post #11754 9th Jun 2009 11:29am
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kljw



Member Since: 23 Jan 2009
Location: Edinburgh
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Scotland 2009 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 SVX Soft Top Auto Santorini Black
hi
take a look at my SVX, in the my defender section, that has an external roll cage. Cheers
keith
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Post #11757 9th Jun 2009 12:41pm
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El Cyd



Member Since: 21 Sep 2008
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Good point id forgotten about the SVX If it aint broke its just waiting.
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Glynparry25



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Wales 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green
I am looking at Safety devices. I haven't heared much about them since they went Polish though, so am waiting to hear reports on them before buying.

The P&P cages are nice but in comparrison to the SD ones they don't contain as much for the same price, eg internal hoops, and they don't seem to be of as strict tollerences.

Glyn
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El Cyd



Member Since: 21 Sep 2008
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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
Are you planning to install it yourself or get an independent to do the job for you.

The 90s i will self install but with the 110 only being a year old i reckon ill get a specialist.

Ive not heard much about safety sytems either but did peruse there site. If it aint broke its just waiting.
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Glynparry25



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Wales 2009 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS DCPU Tonga Green
The prices I got were as follows:

P&P
The price for a Full External cage for the MY2009 Double Cab pick up is £1455+vat. The delivery is extra, or you could have the cage fitted here at an additional cost of £720+vat. We also have fitting centres dotted around the country.

Frogs Island
We can supply and fit and the cost of the cage will be £1400.00 and the labour to fit will be £1600.00. Both prices exclude VAT.

This puts me on the fence, as I like the SD cage but don't want to pay the £1600+VAT for fittng. At the moment I am thinking about fitting it myself as it will then just cost £1400+VAT, and a few days of my time and probably a few crates for the lads that help me.

Glyn
Post #11815 10th Jun 2009 6:46pm
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El Cyd



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
For my 110 (station Wagon Utility) I was quoted 1250 for the external and 850 to fit (+vat on both)

they also sent contact details of an agent local to me who could install

The 90 was quoted as 990 +Vat - didnt enquire about installing If it aint broke its just waiting.
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bell-auto-services



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
It will be P&P for me , they do a lot of work with LR developement.

I will be taking my 90 TDV6 there for a T45 full external cage in the next few weeks.

Pete
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fekete



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United Kingdom 2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Bonatti Grey
More photos pete Thumbs Up NEVER TAKE LIFE SERIOUSLY. NOBODY GETS OUT ALIVE ANYWAY
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Eduardo



Member Since: 28 Aug 2008
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Chile 2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 SW Stornoway Grey
Quite expensive

I recieve last year a quote from a small workshop dedicated to make accesories for Defenders In Mendoza, Argentina (200 k from Santiago).

They produce long internal roll cages (a copy of a well known ones) at a cost of ~ 300 BP (not installed).
May be will be a good business to export it to GB Mr. Green



[URL=http://g.imageshack.us/img189/dsc07848p.jpg/1/] Eduardo

MY 2007 110 SW PUMA 2.4: Big Fog of 64'
MY 1994 Jayco 1207 Folding camper: "El Tremendo"

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Post #11833 10th Jun 2009 10:26pm
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Glynparry25



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fekete wrote:
More photos pete Thumbs Up


I second that Very Happy.

I need convincing that their cages are great as it will end up much cheaper for me to get a P&P cage Smile. I jut don't want to end up with a cage like the one for sale at Eastnor where I could have fit my head between the roof and the cage Sad

Glyn
Post #11834 10th Jun 2009 10:33pm
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RgrBox



Member Since: 04 Jun 2009
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United States 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 CSW Bonatti Grey
What's the mounting of the cages like.. lot of technical work? Any welding to me done..?

RB 2008 110 2.4 tdci csw
Landrovers of Switzerland Club member
Post #11839 11th Jun 2009 8:48am
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bell-auto-services



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United Kingdom 2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 USW Orkney Grey
There is loads od P&Pcage pictures on there web site, te cages ae about 10mm from the body of the car when done.

If you need more spasific pictures email Dan and he will send you so e more over im sure.

Pete
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diesel_jim



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United Kingdom 2006 Defender 110 Td5 SW Epsom Green
I have a P&P external on my 110 CSW (there's some pics on this forum somewhere). got an internal hoop as well.

It fits very well. like Pete says, nice and tight to the bodywork.

I fitted mine myself, although i was building the 110 at the time also, but that would have had no effect on it anyway as all the bodywork was fitted by the time i got around to the cage.

very easy, just take your time. I reckon you'd have a 90 done easily in a weekend.

just one thing... if you get a P&P one, ignore the template they give you to drill the holes for mounting the hoops.... just fit the rear crossmember brackets and then work your way forwards.

I have 4 holes nicely in the wrong place due to that. I put some M8 bolts in to fill them, but it's still very annoying.
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El Cyd



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United Kingdom 2008 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey
How does that internal hoop clash with internal space and passenger /driver heads If it aint broke its just waiting.
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