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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2642  
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So having gone down the Bowler bumper route
i've just came ot the realization i don't have anywhere to mount my license plate... I currently have a twisted steering guard - obviously the usual bowler setup is license plate on the steering guard. I guess my options are - change to a bowler steering guard Or What is the smallest front plate i can run? can i cut down and make a small version of my current 4 digit license plate and stick it in the middle of the bumper? this is how it currently looks  Click image to enlarge Would this be legal? |
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18th Jul 2018 2:40am |
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| Roy5695 Member Since: 15 Feb 2014 Location: Cornwall Posts: 1123  
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If I remember correctly, as long as the letters are the correct size and spacing. All you need is an 11mm border.
So the edges of your plate could be trimmed 2011 Defender DCPU 2.2 - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic30623.html Instagram - @r22oyp Roy |
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18th Jul 2018 6:11am |
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| Siwynne Member Since: 04 Nov 2016 Location: West lancs Posts: 583 
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Correct
I’ve just had this out with an envious off duty plod aquintance. He reckoned that my cut down front plate was illegal. I said go and check. It’s correctly spaced with platemakers postcode on and more than enough border but shorter than normal. He came back tail between legs Think about those huge rear plates they put on old rrs and rovers that fit the space on the boot. They ere not even the right shape. |
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18th Jul 2018 6:18am |
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| Welshsurferdude Member Since: 23 Feb 2012 Location: Newport Posts: 2415 
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I haven't run a front plate for 5 years on 3 110's so I wouldn't worry too much
  saved my bacon more than once too so happy to pay a fine when I get caught  2008 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold)
2015 Discovery 4.5 Black pack Firenze red XS 2008 Corris Grey 110 XS USW (sold) 2011 Santorini Black 110 XS USW (Sold) |
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18th Jul 2018 6:56am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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The plate just needs to be big enough to meet the letter size and spacing requirements, and the minimum border size of 11mm.
They're a difficult read but the relevant regulations, The Road Vehicles (Display of Registration Marks) Regulations 2001, can be found here: http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2001/561/contents/made As an aside, the pedant in me can't help but point out that it's a registration plate, not a licence plate  Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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18th Jul 2018 7:08am |
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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2642
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I guess this is where the bmw pic came from after some research...
Think I’ll try one ? I do 2k miles / year now so and rarely see police anyway... nearest station is 18 miles away https://www.fourdotdesignerplates.co.uk/cars/products/zero-plates |
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18th Jul 2018 7:13am |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2530 
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If you want an even shorter number plate you could always buy F1 from Afzal Kahn, I'm sure if you offer him the £12.5m he is asking for it he'd even throw in one of his Chelsea Tractors for you.
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18th Jul 2018 7:36am |
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| legin Member Since: 22 Jul 2017 Location: Chelmsford Essex Posts: 1004 
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I cut mine down only a 1" each end and never had trouble even at the MOT and the F1 plate used to belong to Chelmsford Council as did 1F which I think they sold for £200,000 sounds like a bargain now
Click image to enlarge I also had my number plate fitted on the bulkhead for years on my 200TDi and again never had trouble and this had wrong size letters and cut down. |
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18th Jul 2018 8:23am |
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| miker Member Since: 13 Sep 2015 Location: Surrey Posts: 1763 
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I like the idea of the bulkhead as I think the front bumper looks much cleaner without a plate!
Something to deal with when I get my winch bumper one day... |
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18th Jul 2018 8:33am |
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| MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 
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TBH I would stay "legal"
Any copper looking for a problem may be over-zealous, and also you could have insurance issues ??? I would be less worried about MOT's etc, but someone "wanting to make a point" may make an example of you... It's just not worth it? Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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18th Jul 2018 9:52am |
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| Likeomg Member Since: 29 Jun 2012 Location: Lake District / Newcastle Posts: 2642
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Insurance wise - they have almost a full A4 page of modifications... a small license plate probably isn't going to make much difference just have to remember to tell them
I'll order one and see how i feel when i get back in a few weeks from now |
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18th Jul 2018 11:10am |
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| JOW240725 Member Since: 04 May 2015 Location: Suffolk Posts: 7907 
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As an aside, I visited our local Forestry Commission last weekend and to get in the car park it had to read your front plate rather than issuing a parking ticket. So to get in you would need a visible front plate.
Since we're showing plates, my fav... Click image to enlarge James MY2012 110 2.2TDCi XS SW Orkney Grey - http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic43410.html MY1990 110 200TDi SW beautifully faded Portofino Red - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post743641.html#743641 MY1984 90 V8 Slate Grey - https://www.defender2.net/forum/post744557.html#744557 Instagram @suffolk_rovers Last edited by JOW240725 on 18th Jul 2018 3:58pm. Edited 1 time in total |
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18th Jul 2018 3:04pm |
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| discomog Member Since: 09 May 2015 Location: Notts/Lincs Border Posts: 2530
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Now that plate would look better cut down. Defender 90XS SW
Mini Countryman Cooper S Morgan Plus 8 |
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18th Jul 2018 3:41pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17450 
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Interesting. What would actually happen if you didn't have one, or had one which the device couldn't read? Does this mean that if you are in a classic car (black/silver or black/white plate) or you are in a foreign car you can't get in? Or on a motorcycle? |
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18th Jul 2018 3:46pm |
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