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ashtrans
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Member Since: 08 Nov 2008
Location: Harpenden
Posts: 257

Puma central locking poor range fix

despite putting a few new batteries in I was shocked at the range of the central locking, approx 1 to 1.5 meters, totally useless,

I came across this :

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defen...fixed.html

If you take out the front speaker, drivers side, and shine torch up and look towards the firewall you will see a green box, it is about 15 cm long and 8cm tall, with two harnesses attached to the bottom of it. The harness closest to the steering collum has an Orange wire with a light grey stripe, about 15cm long, leading out of it.

You can also see it from the fuse box, below the steering wheel, if you look in the gap on the right hand side.

This wire (orange/light grey stripe) is the Ariel for the remote. I was lucky enough that this wire was close enough to be able to grab it with a pair of long nose pliers from the fuse box (without removing the speaker).

I then soldered a length of wire about a meter or so long, used a stiff piece of plastic strap to poke down in the gap behind the dash and from the bottom of the "A" pillar, a second piece from the right hand side of the steering collum to the fuse box and then just pulled the new wire through, then up the "A" pillar, behind the plastic cover.

Job done - 15 meter remote distance Dave

22nd Apr 2010 3:16pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Stornoway Grey

Would't be along the same lines as this then?

AndrewS wrote:
I have had several PM's requesting more info regarding this mod. I am a bit busy this week to provide decent info. I will provide the info this coming weekend pics an all I dont think I should post the location of the actual box that the wire is fixed too for vehicle security reasons (or am I being over cautious? please discuss). What I will do is pm the location to all those established members that request the info, however if JohnnyThief OnePost requests the info he can go and get fooked.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic2149.h...arm+remote

Your link only works if you are a member! Thanks anyway!

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

22nd Apr 2010 3:34pm

ashtrans
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Member Since: 08 Nov 2008
Location: Harpenden
Posts: 257

K9F wrote:
Would't be along the same lines as this then?

AndrewS wrote:
I have had several PM's requesting more info regarding this mod. I am a bit busy this week to provide decent info. I will provide the info this coming weekend pics an all I dont think I should post the location of the actual box that the wire is fixed too for vehicle security reasons (or am I being over cautious? please discuss). What I will do is pm the location to all those established members that request the info, however if JohnnyThief OnePost requests the info he can go and get fooked.

http://www.defender2.net/forum/topic2149.h...arm+remote

Your link only works if you are a member! Thanks anyway!

Hi,

I am not sure what the quote you mention is refering to but this central locking range fix has no security implications, it just increases the range on the buttons, Dave

23rd Apr 2010 8:25pm

110SEB

Member Since: 29 Jan 2009
Location: Essex, England
Posts: 1444

2007 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Java Black

Try pressing the key fob against your temple and you will get up to 15m range all of a sudden!

23rd Apr 2010 8:42pm

K9F

Member Since: 12 Nov 2009
Location: Bournemouth
Posts: 9610

If you've had the misfortune of having had a metal plate fitted to your swede you can get a range of over a mile and a half using 110SEB's principle. I can get mine to unlock in Bournemouth whilst operating the fob on the Isle of White. Honest?????

If you go through life with your head in the sand....all people will see is an ar5e!!

Treat every day as if it is your last....one day you will be right!!

24th Apr 2010 6:59am

BigWheels

Member Since: 21 Mar 2010
Location: Somerset
Posts: 1405

2008 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 XS CSW Tonga Green

Re: Puma central locking poor range fix

ashtrans wrote:
despite putting a few new batteries in I was shocked at the range of the central locking, approx 1 to 1.5 meters, totally useless,

I came across this :

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defen...fixed.html

If you take out the front speaker, drivers side, and shine torch up and look towards the firewall you will see a green box, it is about 15 cm long and 8cm tall, with two harnesses attached to the bottom of it. The harness closest to the steering collum has an Orange wire with a light grey stripe, about 15cm long, leading out of it.

You can also see it from the fuse box, below the steering wheel, if you look in the gap on the right hand side.

This wire (orange/light grey stripe) is the Ariel for the remote. I was lucky enough that this wire was close enough to be able to grab it with a pair of long nose pliers from the fuse box (without removing the speaker).

I then soldered a length of wire about a meter or so long, used a stiff piece of plastic strap to poke down in the gap behind the dash and from the bottom of the "A" pillar, a second piece from the right hand side of the steering collum to the fuse box and then just pulled the new wire through, then up the "A" pillar, behind the plastic cover.

Job done - 15 meter remote distance

Occurs to me I trashed a fairly new battery recentlythinking it was spent already. About to get a new remote. And its the Deafender's "hearing".....

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25th Apr 2010 1:09pm

Bosun

Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
Location: Great Berry
Posts: 141

Re: Puma central locking poor range fix

ashtrans wrote:
despite putting a few new batteries in I was shocked at the range of the central locking, approx 1 to 1.5 meters, totally useless,

I came across this :

http://www.aulro.com/afvb/90-110-130-defen...fixed.html

If you take out the front speaker, drivers side, and shine torch up and look towards the firewall you will see a green box, it is about 15 cm long and 8cm tall, with two harnesses attached to the bottom of it. The harness closest to the steering collum has an Orange wire with a light grey stripe, about 15cm long, leading out of it.

You can also see it from the fuse box, below the steering wheel, if you look in the gap on the right hand side.

This wire (orange/light grey stripe) is the Ariel for the remote. I was lucky enough that this wire was close enough to be able to grab it with a pair of long nose pliers from the fuse box (without removing the speaker).

I then soldered a length of wire about a meter or so long, used a stiff piece of plastic strap to poke down in the gap behind the dash and from the bottom of the "A" pillar, a second piece from the right hand side of the steering collum to the fuse box and then just pulled the new wire through, then up the "A" pillar, behind the plastic cover.

Job done - 15 meter remote distance

Thanks for the tip. Worked a treat and only took 20 minutes. Mine works from 10 metres, but hey, that's a whole ten times better. Why couldn't Land Rover have done that!

Thanks again.

22nd May 2010 3:36pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20376

gonna try this over the next week had to buy a bit of wire though first

22nd Jul 2010 6:16pm

Bosun

Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
Location: Great Berry
Posts: 141

Good luck, it realy is a simple fix. Probably too technical for the Defender PD guys at LR.

Just curious, but with a name like konabikes11, are you a keen mountain biker too?

22nd Jul 2010 6:30pm

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20376

Bosun wrote:
Good luck, it realy is a simple fix. Probably too technical for the Defender PD guys at LR.

Just curious, but with a name like konabikes11, are you a keen mountain biker too?

Used to be i got a Kona Cowan 06 (Electric blue) HT. I have a question when i go to do this mod i know which wire it is and where to route it best but how do you guys think i should join the new wire best? solder then electrical tape or solder and crimp or just crimp? Or does it not really matter just so long as it's connected

22nd Jul 2010 6:36pm

Bosun

Member Since: 21 Jul 2008
Location: Great Berry
Posts: 141

Hi, "orange/light grey striped wire" as specified above. I soldered and used heat shink sleeve, but any method that securely joins and insulates the wire will be OK. Routed mine up the 'A' pillar (just two screws to remove the trim) and then just into the roof void. As I said, it works a treat. Plus a few brownie points from Ann, my partner.

22nd Jul 2010 8:03pm

Mad Cow

Member Since: 27 Oct 2009
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 292

2007 Defender 90 Puma 2.4 HT Zermatt Silver

Used bullet connectors on mine.

I was told the reason Land Rovers (and Rovers) were like this is to stop people "capturing" the code remotely and cloning it. On the basis you might notice someone with a little black box lurking suspiciously right beside the drivers door

Mind you sort of misses the point of remote central locking MAD COW

2007 90 Hard Top - 2009 BMW F800GS - 2002 CCM 604E Dual Sport

Project90

22nd Jul 2010 9:42pm

harveyg77

Member Since: 09 Apr 2010
Location: Derby
Posts: 309

My remote is pressure sensitive. If it does not open froma few feet away I squeeze it harder and swear - gets me in everytime! I do sometimes wonder if the switch contacts are not quite fully closing

23rd Jul 2010 6:55am

custom90

Member Since: 21 Jan 2010
Location: South West, England.
Posts: 20376

done this today just crimped it and electrical tape and also done the same as the pictures of leaving the end slightly bare. A bit fiddily but worked a treat. Thank-you

23rd Jul 2010 3:35pm

nicks

Member Since: 21 Aug 2008
Location: south coast
Posts: 469

2013 Defender 110 Puma 2.2 XS CSW Alaska White

K9F wrote:
If you've had the misfortune of having had a metal plate fitted to your swede you can get a range of over a mile and a half using 110SEB's principle. I can get mine to unlock in Bournemouth whilst operating the fob on the Isle of White. Honest?????

where is the Isle of White???

24th Jul 2010 10:31am

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