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Kit

Member Since: 12 Feb 2016
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 1110

Buying advice: Range Rover L322 TDV8

I'm going to replace my Discovery Td5 soon as i've had it for a very long time now and it really needs a new gearbox (170K miles).

My budget is about £15K although I do understand that the real cost of an L322 is actually running it.

I'm leaning toward a 3.6 as I've test driven a few and the smaller engine seems to be nicer to drive, feels more torque-y low down when you take off.

I thought i'd ask here for the good, the bad and the ugly?

Are there any good forums/owners groups like defender2 for the L322?

In full disclosure I don't have a kids but I am going to start building my own house early next year which is out in the sticks with a 1/2 mile long greenlane to the door, this turns my 10 mile daily commute into a 70 mile one, so I want something comfortable that I can use year round.

Is there anything else I should be looking at?
(I am also looking at a 2.4 Puma 110s

) 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top

16th Sep 2018 3:10pm

Cobstar

Member Since: 27 Aug 2010
Location: South East
Posts: 30

Martin’s got it covered for you. Lots of useful advice at http://www.fullfatrr.com

16th Sep 2018 3:28pm

Kit

Member Since: 12 Feb 2016
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 1110

Nice one

1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top

16th Sep 2018 3:51pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8030

2011 Defender 110 Puma 2.4 USW Stornoway Grey

I have a 2012 4.4, run for 2years now. Prior I had a 2010my 3.6 for 3 years. Approx 10k a year in them.

4.4 is smoother with better economy and this plus paddles on wheel.

If looking 3.6, look at 2010my onwards for better dash, ice etc Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

16th Sep 2018 7:57pm

Kit

Member Since: 12 Feb 2016
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 1110

If you could do it all over again would you prefer the 3.6 or the 4.4? 1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top

16th Sep 2018 8:10pm

grafty99

Member Since: 15 Aug 2012
Location: North Devon
Posts: 4785

My personal preference is the 4.4. I personally don't see any advantages (disregarding cost) of the 3.6 over the 4.4. The 8 speed gearbox is brilliant. Especially as in top gear every 1000rpm gets you 50mph.

Our 4.4 averages 28mpg around hilly north Devon and it isn't driven with economy in mind. On a steady motorway trip you can expect low 30s to the gallon

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16th Sep 2018 9:51pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8030

4.4, better mated with that gbox Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

17th Sep 2018 8:01am

Guy

Member Since: 11 Feb 2013
Location: St Eval, Cornwall
Posts: 250

Kit

Have a look on YouTube at " Harry's garage". Are you familiar with him? Motoring journalist and proper petrol head. He runs a 3.6 TDV8 and rates it very highly, there is a great video review by him.

Hope that helps.

Guy
DINGO - '99 Discovery 2 V8 with 300Tdi transplant, chawton white. Repatriated from Australia and expedition prepped. **FOR SALE**
SHARKY - '06 Discovery 3 HSE Auto, bonatti grey. SOLD.
GEORGE - '99 Discovery 1 300Tdi Auto, willow green. Daily driver, travel companion, part of the family! SOLD.
PINGU - '96 Defender 110 300Tdi station wagon. SOLD.

Dream LR - 130 pop top station wagon camper.

17th Sep 2018 8:15am

Kit

Member Since: 12 Feb 2016
Location: Shropshire
Posts: 1110

Thanks for that, Harry seems like a top bloke!

My heart is saying TDV8 but my brain is saying get something like an A6 Allroad

1993 200 Tdi 90 CSW
1956 Series 1 Hard-top
1958 Series 1 Soft-top

17th Sep 2018 6:20pm

jonny

Member Since: 10 Mar 2013
Location: North Wilts
Posts: 149

I've had a 3.6 TDV8 (2010 facelift) for the last 18 months or so.

When things are good, they are fantastic, fantastic cars. Supremely comfortable, effortless mile munchers.

When things are bad, the bills can escalate very, very quickly. Even if you have a local independent specialist who has much more reasonable labour rates than a main dealer. And there's a lot of stuff that can go wrong. Either get one with a good warranty, or keep a spare 3-5K in the bank should the worst happen!

Consumables are priced for a 70K car, even though the purchase price is now down to mondeo levels. They are heavy cars and go through things like discs and pads pretty quickly. OE tyres are about £170 a corner and they last for about 20K if you swap them round the corners regularly.

If I was to do it again, I'd probably get a 4.4 over a 3.6 - less problems with turbo and EGR valve failures, however you gain DPFs which can also go wrong if you don't give them long runs every now and then.

With the anti-diesel climate at the moment, a petrol one may be a better option for the future, even with the way worse fuel consumption...

If you want something that is capable of bumpy tracks, is reliable and can lug a fair bit, but you don't want to worry about if it's going to bankrupt you, something like a Subaru Outback (petrol) or an XC70 is probably a safer bet. Or maybe even a FL2 if you want to stay with a landy..

17th Sep 2018 7:17pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8030

i looked at RS6 and A6 alroad options, neither did it for me on overall functionality. all will eat miles nicely.

4.4 also needs to have had the turbo oil drain mod (they can use oil if not which then causes dpf issues)

tyres wise, i bought a set of grabber AT, they did 30ish K on the 3.6 and have done 20k on current one.

mpg, 3.6 - 26mpg over 30k, 4.4 28mpg over 20k miles. both includes bit of towing (10% of mileages?) at 2- 3 T

3.6 work done in 30k - annual services and an air compressor after it sat for 12mths when i had it up for sale.

4.4 work done (excluding starter motor which was faulty when i got it and supplying dealer fixed along with oil drain mod) - annual services, touching wood, thats it so far.

4.4 i believe is a better drive and i like the steering wheel paddles. (plus my 3.6 as remapped) Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

17th Sep 2018 8:37pm

Huttopia

Member Since: 23 Feb 2016
Location: West Midlands
Posts: 1972

Maybe not the required image but a late petrol p38 with decent history and spec won’t cost a fortune and will be as comfortable as a pair of otter lined slippers. There is a Holland and Holland on fleabay at the moment....

17th Sep 2018 9:30pm

jst

Member Since: 14 Jan 2008
Location: Taunton
Posts: 8030

We escorted a P38 V8 around Wales on a photo shoot last week, a really comfortable, capable vehicle. it never missed a beat. Cheers

James
110 2012 XS Utility
130 2011 M57 bespoke Camper
90 2010 Hardtop
90 M57 1988 Hardtop

18th Sep 2018 8:56pm

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