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| Paulv8 Member Since: 09 Jun 2013 Location: Milton Keynes Posts: 618  
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25th Jul 2018 9:34pm |
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| Sulisuli Member Since: 30 Oct 2016 Location: South west Posts: 4795  
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Over zealous approach by the Policeman
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25th Jul 2018 9:51pm |
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| Chopperone Member Since: 13 Nov 2016 Location: Derbyshire Posts: 396
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Interesting reading & on the evidence presented I would find any excuse I could to remove him from his job.
He certainly seems to have issues. Blood bikes provide a very real & essential service and they should be afforded respect whilst going about their business Guy May your life be like toilet paper ; long & useful. |
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25th Jul 2018 10:00pm |
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| bpman Member Since: 21 May 2008 Location: Oslo Posts: 8069 
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Whilst I am in awe of the very kind people who volunteer their time and energy, Why is it down to volunteers to perform this function? Surely moving blood, equipment and organs around should be part of the core NHS services - it’s all a bit sh..
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26th Jul 2018 5:25am |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6104 
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Oooh wouldn't fate have been great if the blood was destined for someone that the PC knew or was related to, and in holding up the bike, said person died.
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26th Jul 2018 6:16am |
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| wyvern Member Since: 13 Dec 2009 Location: Cornwall Posts: 2117 
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as always I expect that there is more to this than meets the eye, as there has always been a grey area with the use of blues and twos by the support services such as the coast guard/first responders/blood bikes/RNLI etc..
From my memory - Each county has its own standard for the use of B&2s and what training is needed, when its acceptable and how authorisation is given. In the past in Cornwall a person made a replica ambulance first responder car and used to go over the taymar bridge with the blues on ... he was eventually picked up by keen eyed toll booth attendant and prosecuted. With Devon and Cornwall 4x4 response we have an agreement to help transport the rider and their package in times of poor weather/road conditions but have to drive with in the letter of the law (as well as to the road conditions !) this is a silly case and glad that common sense prevailed ! Poppy - TDCI (Puma) 110XS 2.2 - Camper conversion - see the build here - https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic56530.html Elgar -TDCI(Puma) 110XS Dormobile - now sold Devon & Cornwall 4x4 Response - DC126  |
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26th Jul 2018 6:49am |
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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8582
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Now I do not really know the laws surrounding the fittment and use of blue lights. I do understand that say ex military/historic ambulances need their blue lights either covering up or removing from the vehicle whilst on the public highway.
I wonder if that particular copper would do a fire engine or an ambulance travelling at say 25 mph under blues and twos in a 20 mph zone. Since the blood bike was travelling under authorisation to use blues and twos, I wonder if that copper had authorisation to exceed the speed limit (105mph) and use blues and twos under that situation? As said previously I think that the copper superiors and the CPS need taking to task for bringing a senseless prosecution wasting the taxpayers money. Now is it an urban myth that a London traffic warden gave a fire engine a parking ticket for parking on double yellows whilst actively engaged in fighting a fire? Brendan |
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26th Jul 2018 6:54am |
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| LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324
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You may be thinking of this case? It wasn't in London and the crew weren't fighting a fire but they were on duty.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-sussex-44042536
I'm just guessing but it may be one of those niche activities that just don't warrant a full time service. Much like 4x4 Response. Darren 110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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26th Jul 2018 7:21am |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17467 
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Assuming that the linked web article is reporting accurately (it given that it it not the Daily Mail there is a very good chance that it is), it would be rather pleasing if the policeman was himself prosecuted for something like crossing solid white line while pursuing a criminal, thus getting a taste of his own medicine except legitimately.
It is, on the face of it, very difficult to comprehend what rationale was in his mind for this action, and it is hard to avoid the conclusion that it was some kind of personal vendetta. If so, he does not have the right disposition to be a police officer and should be sacked without further ado. |
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26th Jul 2018 8:47am |
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| simon67 Member Since: 18 Jun 2015 Location: west sussex Posts: 569  
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Blackwolf
Reads like he has exactly the right personality for a police officer and in the perfect job |
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26th Jul 2018 8:51am |
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| OsloBlue Member Since: 14 Jul 2018 Location: Essex Posts: 823 
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From what i remember:
Vehicles used for transport of organs/tissue for transplant are permitted to have blue lights and sirens, but are permitted some exemption to speed. But even if he was guilty of the "crime" the defence of necessity could be used in order to excuse the guilty party of any punishment. I'm on IG: https://www.instagram.com/osloblue42/ Current: TD5 '110 "Lucinda" Thread here: https://www.defender2.net/forum/topic62562.html |
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26th Jul 2018 9:24am |
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| ARC99 Member Since: 19 Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire Posts: 1831 
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The use of Blue light and two tones does not give the driver/rider permission to break any part Road Traffic Act. The use of excess speed by the driver/rider has to be justified as not a case of get there at all costs as fast as you can.
I know of cases were Police, Ambulance and fire personnel have been prosecuted for the use of excess speed while running with Blues and two tones, they had not been involved accidents but there use of excess speed had caused other to be. Don't make old people mad. We don't like being old in the first place, so it doesn't take much to  us off.
Richard |
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27th Jul 2018 8:21am |
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| Caterham Member Since: 06 Nov 2008 Location: Birmingham Posts: 6308 
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the rider should have simply said he was gay and being discriminated against (or something similar) and it perhaps would have saved a lot of time and expense. he'd probably have got an apology and a new bike?
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27th Jul 2018 8:47am |
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