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Intercept



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Tomb Raider / Black series Hoop
The faux roll hoop on my Black LE is soon going to need removal for refurb. It's held on by some large bolts from the outside. I've not yet investigated the inside but presumably there is a steel spreader plate. Does anyone know whether this or the nuts are captive?


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zsd-puma



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Are they fake roll hoops? I thought they bolted to the top of the B post and to a bracket fitted to the front of the A post. Should be quite strong in a roll over, a lot stronger than the windscreen frame. They just have the appearance of being bolted to flimsy bits.

I think under the front wing there is a large steel bracket that attaches to the front of the A post/bulkhead, which in turn is attached to the chassis out rigger. I should imagine the B post top has a bracket bolted to the top of it, which as you guessed has the roof spreader plate as part of it.
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Yes the wing plates are captive. The rubber gaskets are expensive so if you can save them do!
Post #710145 31st May 2018 1:55pm
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NickMc wrote:
Yes the wing plates are captive

That's good - thanks. I tried to get to the back of the wing mounting points earlier and failed!

Does anyone know about the roof mounting points?
Post #710182 31st May 2018 4:48pm
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Check this out for more info

http://new.lrcat.com/#!/1228/23697/23699/1781

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Post #710192 31st May 2018 5:51pm
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zsd-puma



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Intercept wrote:
NickMc wrote:
Yes the wing plates are captive

That's good - thanks. I tried to get to the back of the wing mounting points earlier and failed!

Does anyone know about the roof mounting points?


If they're not it only takes about 10 min to drop the centre section of the head lining and slide it backwards.
Post #710202 31st May 2018 6:16pm
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Intercept



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Romadog wrote:
Check this out for more info

http://new.lrcat.com/#!/1228/23697/23699/1781

Superb info - thankyou. But sadly it reveals that all the (inaccessible) M10 nuts are nyloc. And not captive Sad So getting this down to the local stove enamelers is going to require a lot more disassembly than I'd envisaged...

Post #710235 31st May 2018 9:12pm
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I'm pretty sure if you pop the wheel arch spats off the front you'll be able to reach up and undo the nuts.

As I said headlining is easy.

Just get new plastic fixings for the spats and headlining, it's not worth trying to reuse old ones.
Post #710238 31st May 2018 9:53pm
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Defender black hoops are captive at the front wings, I took one off last week to get it shot blasted for a customer. The front headliner needs removed, pulled back or dropped onto the head rests. The “cant” rails above the doors come off the main hoop with a bolt too. Can take pictures tomorrow if you want, but it’s fairly simple.
Post #710249 31st May 2018 11:12pm
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