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MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 |
Hasanyone found an alternate method of reinforcing the mounting? I just went to order the Entreq ones, and the P&P was quoted as something like 50 euros (for a part costing a quarter of that!).
It may be easier just using a short strip of plate (galvanised meccano!) inside the sill (rather than outside like the Entreq one)??? Also it doesn't really need 2 other holes drilled (like the Entreq one) as it's only really preventing the existing mounting from flexing....? If it was inside, the body would stop it from turning...? Something like this, cut to about 8cm long, with a single hole drilled for the mud flap mount, and mounted inside the sill? http://www.yourspares.co.uk/parts/ys117064...099FE.aspx Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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22nd Sep 2011 9:38am |
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MartinK Member Since: 02 Mar 2011 Location: Silverdale (Lancashire/Cumbria Border) Posts: 2665 |
Thanks Blackwolf - just done this as a preventative measure to my new 110. A 6mm hole in a 4" length of aluminium strip (about 1mm thick - so slightly thicker than the original panel). I'll probably replace the 6mm fastener with Stainless Steel (it's going to collect a lot of road salt, and rust quick I guess), and also a nylock nut to make sure it stays nipped-up. Job was free, as I found the aluminium strip in the garage. Lashings of dinitrol on mine. Hopefully this is a problem fixed before it happens As a thought - there have been threads here about rear wheelarch liners. Wouldn't it be great if someone built an improved mud flap hangar, with an extended section upwards into the wheelarch? That would stop the mud hitting the rear crossmember... Defender "Puma" 2.4 110 County Utility (possibly the last of the 2.4's) |
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24th Oct 2011 2:08pm |
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110 UT Member Since: 10 Nov 2011 Location: Bedford Posts: 2 |
Could anyone who has had the warranty repair accepted (in the end!) for the bodywork give me some details?
Reference numbers or correspondance - or any info on how you argued it? Land Rover have kindly refused all liability on mine. The garage is in agreement with them. As a leased vehicle I have to get an approved repair which isn't cheap. It is clearly an inadequate mounting and can't believe that the garage can't at least see it from my point of view. Similar story to everyone else, offside was swaying in headlights on the way home the other night. Pulled over in the dark pulled it and it snapped the chassis bracket where it had been swaying. It was only the next day I noticed to 25mm piece of bodywork still attached to it. Checked on the other side and sure enough the bodywork was already torn. Phoned LR to get it inspected, by which time the near side one was swaying. Chief mechanic had a look and told me that there was no 'fault' and that LR definately won't cover it. He added that he had not seen this problem before... I'd happily pay for the mud flap which I broke - but I didn't want to admit that up front. Any help much appreciated. Colin |
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10th Nov 2011 10:37am |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
Don't know if this is useful but I just fitted the Entreq ones (one wing is already torn on a 6-month-old vehicle!) and I'm very impressed. They are stainless and each come with two tough rubber (silicone?) gaskets to isolate the bracket from the bodywork and ceramic paste for all the bolts (which are also stainless). Probably are over-engineered (I prefer this to the alternatives) and pricey (yes, quite) but I am happy to trade my laziness for expensive quality Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Nov 2011 10:49am |
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T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101 |
entreq do some sexy SS bits for the defender.....i'll get my order in with a few others to keep postage costs down |
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10th Nov 2011 1:15pm |
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Glynparry25 Member Since: 16 Feb 2009 Location: Miserable Midlands Posts: 3015 |
I have just come across this thread. I fixed mine 2 weeks ago. I took some 1mm alloy sheet. cut it into correct length strips, folded it over (so just like the entreq), drilled, painted and then bolted to the rear panel....... cost....... 0 pence and only took about 1hr of my own time.
I would say this is a problem due to the mud flaps being soo rigid. Glyn |
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10th Nov 2011 5:50pm |
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Zagato Site Supporter Member Since: 08 Jan 2011 Location: Billingshurst West Sussex Posts: 5012 |
The mudflaps are fine, the problem is bolting the bracket to the wing, the wing clearly shouldn't be used as a structural fixing point for the bracket, it obvious it will chew the thin ali away in no time at all. A proper bracket should have been designed that does not utilise the wing but then it's easier to just bolt the bracket onto the wing lip
I'm sure the same happened to my Td5 |
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10th Nov 2011 6:47pm |
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ZeDefender Member Since: 15 Sep 2011 Location: Munich Posts: 4731 |
Show off Tell someone you love them today because life is short. But shout it at them in German because life is also terrifying and confusing... |
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10th Nov 2011 6:48pm |
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T1G UP Member Since: 08 Dec 2009 Location: Bath Posts: 3101 |
so they'd be better off mounted off the rear x member then?
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10th Nov 2011 8:32pm |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
Except that on a 110 they'd probably be too far away from the wheels to be effective. Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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10th Nov 2011 10:10pm |
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RFT Member Since: 13 Nov 2010 Location: Cheshire Posts: 678 |
My dealer replaced all mine when the paint flaked off them. LR seem to think black paint can be thrown at steel from 80 paces, but fortunately there are some honest good dealers who are not scared of LR HQ...... The design is rubbish but on a 130 HCPU they are not subject to as much battering and bending moment as on other models.
BTW I use Hillendale in Nelson Lancs. I can not fault them, even the coffee is excellent. 130 Puma HCPU with an Artica 240LR Demountable Camper |
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11th Nov 2011 1:00am |
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Happyoldgit Member Since: 14 Sep 2007 Location: Norfolk Posts: 3471 |
That's where they all were fitted on the Series 109's I've had, they were flexible rubber too and not hard plastic. Steve. Owned numerous Land Rover vehicles of all shapes and sizes over the decades. Current Defender: A non tarts hand-bagged Puma 110 XS USW. [Insert something impressive here such as extensive list of previous Land Rovers or examples of your prestigeous and expensive items, trinkets, houses, bikes, vehicles etc] http://forums.lr4x4.com I used to be Miserable ...but now I'm ecstatic. |
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11th Nov 2011 7:50am |
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LandRoverAnorak Member Since: 17 Jul 2011 Location: Surrey Posts: 11324 |
They'd definitely been re-located by late-Series III production - my '82 Stage 1 had them in the same place as my 110. Perhaps it was a vain attempt to preserve the rear crossmember, although I guess there could be some C&U regulation about positioning? Darren
110 USW BUILD THREAD - EXPEDITION TRAILER - 200tdi 90 BUILD THREAD - SANKEY TRAILER - IG@landroveranorak "You came in that thing? You're braver than I thought!" - Princess Leia |
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11th Nov 2011 8:56am |
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110 UT Member Since: 10 Nov 2011 Location: Bedford Posts: 2 |
I've had the pleasure of talking with Land Rover customer services with regards to my damaged bodywork. They have been in touch with the warranty department who have accused me of causing the damage to the vehicle myself. They can see no fault in the fixings...
Thank you LR, the dealership 'involved' has washed their hands of it having informed me of LR decision - leaving me to phone up customer services for an explanation - thank you local stealership, very helpful. [b]So you may want to be fixing this non-existant fault before you damage your vehicle![/b] If anyone can share any info on successful warranty claims I would be very grateful! |
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22nd Nov 2011 9:54pm |
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