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| leeds Member Since: 28 Dec 2009 Location: West Yorkshire Posts: 8581  
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I think your issue is that you are using the expression rebuild rather then a repair or replacement.
Rebuilding a vehicle yes you may well get a new VIN as it can be construed as a new vehicle. Taken from DVLA
You can keep the same registration number IF Keep a vehicle’s original registration number A rebuilt vehicle can keep its original registration number if you can prove you’ve used: the original unmodified chassis or bodyshell (car or light van) a new chassis or monocoque bodyshell of the same specification as the original (car or light van) the original unmodified frame (motorbike) a new frame of the same specification as the original (motorbike) You must also have 2 other major components from the original vehicle from the following lists. For cars or light vans: suspension (front and back) steering assembly axles (both) transmission engine So is the chassis being repaired or replaced with a new same as original chassis? Our red 110 needed a new chassis as the original one was damaged beyond repair with an original correct chassis so kept the original VIN and registration number as it had original engine transmission etc were kept. HTH Brendan |
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28th Feb 2018 11:44pm |
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| zsd-puma Member Since: 09 Aug 2016 Location: Kent Posts: 2720 
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if you're replacing the chassis with a factory spec one (albeit one that's been dipped in zinc), then you don't actually need to inform the DVLA, just stamp your existing chassis number into it.
The only time you'd need to inform them and take it for a VIC or SVA test is if you'd rebuilt it using various other new components too, ie the engine, the axles, various new bits of body. Or if you'd replaced it with a non factory spec chassis, ie a 6x6 one or changed it from a 110 to a 90. |
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1st Mar 2018 5:29am |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127 
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I’ve just done the same regarding my chassis swap,
I just re stamped the new one, and scrapped the old one minus the dumb iron with the number. (I’ve kept that) Take a few photos, and keep your invoice. Engine swap was a bit more involved with the DVLA! Regarding the chassis, as long as what your doing is legal, I wouldn’t get DVLA involved, They are an absolute nightmare to deal with now. 80" 80" 86" 88" 90" Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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1st Mar 2018 6:17am |
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| defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1629 
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Yes, if he hadn't already informed the DVLA I would have told him just to stamp the new chassis, unfortunately he has informed them so he's currently batting e-mails back and forth with them. Personally I'm not sure why the DVLA cannot accept stamping a like for like chassis with the original chassis number as he has proof that he has disposed of the old chassis and he cut out the section of old chassis with the chassis number stamped on it and retained it.
He is retaining the original engine, gearbox axles, suspension and steering components. |
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1st Mar 2018 9:28am |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127
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More here....
Last paragraph says it all. 
http://www.glencoyne.co.uk/vosalaw.htm 80" 80" 86" 88" 90" Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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1st Mar 2018 10:31am |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6092 
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Just cut all communications withthe DVLA and crack on with the chassis change.
When I built a 110 into a 90 some years back, I inadavertantly opened the DVLA can of worms by contactiing them, had a few visits and ended up with a Q plate... the inspector said to me bluntly... "next time you won't contact us, will you!!" |
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2nd Mar 2018 5:32pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17378 
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^^ Change the wheelbase and you are legally require to tell DVLA.
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2nd Mar 2018 6:18pm |
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| diesel_jim Member Since: 13 Oct 2008 Location: hiding Posts: 6092
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That's what I thought, hence why I contacted them, but even their inspector was hinting otherwise.
But as for the O/P of this thread, like for like chassis just change it and stamp the old number into the new rail. |
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2nd Mar 2018 6:21pm |
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| dannyc85 Member Since: 17 Feb 2016 Location: Middlesbrough Posts: 39 
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I'm planning g on replacing my chassis this summer. How would you stamp the old chassis number on the new chassis? Is there some sort of stamp you can buy? I also would t want to get the DVLA involved but was worried in case having no stamp becomes a problem in the future.
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2nd Mar 2018 6:49pm |
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| blackwolf Member Since: 03 Nov 2009 Location: South West England Posts: 17378
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You can buy letter and number punches in just about size from any good engineering supplier, or now from the Internet or eBay.
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2nd Mar 2018 7:00pm |
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| ian series 1 Member Since: 17 Nov 2014 Location: south Posts: 3127
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https://www.axminster.co.uk/axminster-lett...es-ax22576 80" 80" 86" 88" 90"
Wanted, Forward Control Anything considered. |
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2nd Mar 2018 7:07pm |
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| VVS210 Member Since: 12 Nov 2016 Location: Hampshire Posts: 953
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Set of punches, straight edge, G clamps & Land Rover Tool #1 did just this with my brothers 90 that he bought back from the insurance as a write off & rebuilt on a new galvanised chassis. Cut the old chassis into bits, kept the piece with the VIN number on & took the rest to a scrappy - job done 
As for the OP - I'd be quoting their own website back to them & saying that you will see them in court if they refuse to accept a simple like for like chassis replacement. Even if they insist in applying the modified vehicle criteria you'd still score 9 points provided the vehicle was transplanted like for like. If DVLA were as interested in catching tax dodgers, like the one who lives opposite me who has a VW Golf in the road that has not been taxed since end of December 2013, as they are about wasting time on nonsense like this then I would be happy - that car has been reported dozens of times & they have done nothing! |
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2nd Mar 2018 7:24pm |
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| defender9 Member Since: 12 Mar 2016 Location: Fylde Coast Posts: 1629
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My friend has quoted the DVLA website back to them I believe, he’s still waiting for a response back
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2nd Mar 2018 11:19pm |
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| Hufflepuff Member Since: 25 Oct 2014 Location: Hampshire Posts: 727  
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I fell into this can of worms a few years back with a lightweight where the chassis was swapped to a coil sprung version. There was some discussion of whether the rules were backdatable to the time where the chassis was swapped, but in the end we swapped it back to leaf springs on another replacement chassis.
How much of a modification do you think you would get away with and stay within the rules? I'm going to need a new chassis for a 110 v8 which I'm rebuilding at the moment, and I see Richards Chassis offer one with a different fuel tank brackets to take the newer style tanks which I'm pondering. Similarly, would a removable gearbox cross member be permitted, as I'd like to replace the LT85 with an R380 and I understand that the removeable cross member makes it a little easier? 2005 Td5 90 XS 1989 V8 110 CSW |
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3rd Mar 2018 1:18am |
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